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freshwest

(53,661 posts)
14. Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini are more favored by conservatives than Obama.
Sun Sep 15, 2013, 01:31 AM
Sep 2013

It looks like that great escape won't be to Canada after all. But most of them have been brain washed by CT, so they think they know all about Russia. It's a cool place. Okay, cold as can be in the winter, but hey...

Russia may even want them, if they convert to one of the largest faiths there, Russian Orthodox or Islam. Since their real objection is religious, they might pick the Christian model. Since many may be Protestants, they may feel squeamish. But hey...

They will also have to be willing to live under the Russian conscription laws which may or may not be a good idea. Since many are chicken hawks, they likely think they can buy their way out of it and there's a good chance of that. But they may fail, as others have:

A significant portion of Russians of conscript age try to avoid conscription, mostly because of specific code of violence which has developed in the army since 1967 called Dedovshchina and also poor conditions in Russian Army, which makes large number of conscript-age Russian youth worry about their health or even lives while in the army...

Just not going to a draft station – draft-dodging. This is a criminal offence, punishable by up to two years in prison, depending on the time spent dodging. Russian police and military draft boards often perform conscription through detention [1]. Quite often the would-be recruit would avoid signing the papers that require to pass the board instead. Without that, the "invitation" is considered undelivered, and not showing up is not illegal. In practice, that means living a decade off the grid. This is countered by knocking the doors at 5 AM and having the recruit sign before he would become fully conscious...

The Russian voencoms respond by using increasingly illegal means, referring to non-existent laws and acts, "losing" documents that jeopardize the chance of a conscript being deemed fit for duty, and continuous psychological pressure, with 2011 probably being the apex due to a low birthrate in 1993. Those that attempted a medical discharge and failed are often punished for their resistance by assigning them to the worst units and jobs possible, e.g. a conscript with a heart defect was forced to volunteer for contract frontline service because he almost died hulking around 50-kilo cauldrons several times every day, since his defect was 3 mm rather than 5. Voencoms are rumored (no other source is simply possible) to have established an unofficial bonus system for every conscript, especially if he was unfit for duty and yet conscripted...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Russia

Oh my, Russia does not have a Bill of Rights. Or some of those others that are offensive to American conservatives. But not all is lost, for Russia is a mixed bag:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Russia

People so determined to take the rights of others in the USA, won't mind if they don't have a much bleeding heart liberal stuff over there.

Like Tom DeLay opined that he couldn't believe that a jury full of liberals would convict him. Since, they are all soft hearted.

I predict conservatives emigrating to Russia may have a change of heart and support Iran, Syria and others Russia does. They may even dump Israel off their prayer list.

BTW, I don't think talk of overthrowing government and killing their leaders will be protected as well as it is here, IDK. What do you guys think?

OTOH, taxes are low in Russia. But bribes are sometimes required. If they can jump through the hoops, I'm sure they'll fit right in!



I wish she didn't say that. I think all those right wing anti-gay folks SHOULD move to Russia. Squinch Sep 2013 #1
Well, if they love Putin so much.. and he's such a badass.. Cha Sep 2013 #2
I agree tazkcmo Sep 2013 #29
way to go Maddow! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #3
Well, damn, Rachel really nailed that one! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #4
Good point, she.. if Snowden Cha Sep 2013 #5
Okay~ sheshe2 Sep 2013 #6
Great analysis of body language, she.. Cha Sep 2013 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #26
very good! Obama has got that 'it's your move' look Whisp Sep 2013 #39
Whoa, Putin looks crushed there. This must be where the body language critiques started. freshwest Sep 2013 #10
Yeah, from she! Cha Sep 2013 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #27
Putin is a homophobic hack, a dope, and an opportunist. K/R nt NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #8
Yeah, but somehow a Cha Sep 2013 #9
Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini are more favored by conservatives than Obama. freshwest Sep 2013 #14
That sounds awful, fresh! Compulsory Military Service in Russia.. the Cha Sep 2013 #15
Interesting link. Are Snowden or Greenwald ready to serve? Free-dumb!!111!!!! freshwest Sep 2013 #17
Rachel hits it out of the park again. William769 Sep 2013 #12
Well, imo.. being accused of being a part of the BOG is a Cha Sep 2013 #13
I see Skinner got him - DURHAM D Sep 2013 #30
Yes he did. William769 Sep 2013 #32
I think Skinner can skin just about anyone when he feels like it, in no uncertain terms. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #35
Thanks for the visit - don't be a stranger, I mean it. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #34
I've been surprised that another gay journalist, who has an international.... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2013 #16
There's no angle to trash Obama? Otherwise he's just not that into it. Cha Sep 2013 #18
Followed by the Rand Paul, etc. After all, pretty much the same fan base. freshwest Sep 2013 #20
There's a great article on GG and this very topic. It seems he's just not... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2013 #24
Because they are only interested in the first, second, fourth and tenth amendments? freshwest Sep 2013 #19
That's just sad. But the muted response is even sadder. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2013 #22
Snowden Is Pretty Lonely In Russia DallasNE Sep 2013 #21
Maybe we can raise funds to send over the Oathkeepers to keep him company? Tarheel_Dem Sep 2013 #23
The psychology behind the behavior of repubs can't be hidden King_Klonopin Sep 2013 #25
All good; last paragraph the most telling. I hoped they would respect him. I was afraid after seeing freshwest Sep 2013 #38
I think they 'love' Putin because they invest in Russia war profit sales that are banned in America. Sunlei Sep 2013 #28
Morning Kick! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #31
I'd give everything I have or hope to have IrishAyes Sep 2013 #33
Holy shit. I didn't know this was going on. Hekate Sep 2013 #36
Yes, I found it quite by chance, Hekate.. and Cha Sep 2013 #37
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