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freshwest

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21. They hate it because they believe many of us were born to be slaves and work for nothing for them.
Mon Sep 2, 2013, 05:51 PM
Sep 2013

Last edited Mon Sep 2, 2013, 07:06 PM - Edit history (1)

Someone was quoting the freedom and tyranny stuff from Plato and Aristotle here at DU the other day. I started to reply and then thought better of it, as both men lived at the top of a society built on the backs of slaves. They were in the leisure class who had time to talk.

Going further, I found the two philosophers' views on slavery, and why they considered it a natural state for some people. Not them, or course. Also they lumped in all those conquered by war and all women as having been born to be slaves.

And in their writings, they said should have no voice in their society, nor any right to decent treatment. It was detailed offensive stuff. I was too angry to post my rebuttal.

This was the basis of the Confederacy that blacks and other groups were born to be slaves. It the reason the hate unions, no inconsistency there.

It's the libertarian version of freedom, as described Lincoln, that they want the liberty to own other people as slaves to serve their own interests and make them rich.

This is view of the GOP and their darling Rand who is against all help for poor and working people, women and immigrants. I'm not ready to go and live on the plantation.

Union till the day I die.


Pretty soon there will be an Obama basher on this thread.... iandhr Sep 2013 #1
You beat me to it ! LOL jaysunb Sep 2013 #2
Its been 10 minutes iandhr Sep 2013 #4
And, Happy Labor Day to you, landhr! Cha Sep 2013 #8
Thank you iandhr Sep 2013 #11
Yep, worked all my life in Labor and now I'm Cha Sep 2013 #13
Without the Labor Movement, my union and the New Deal, I'd be dead now,. Just sayin' freshwest Sep 2013 #16
Happy Labor Day, freshwest! Cha Sep 2013 #17
Happy Labor Day, Jay! Cha Sep 2013 #6
Oh, because.. Cha Sep 2013 #5
Yup iandhr Sep 2013 #7
Nice to have good news about President Obama this week. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #3
Happy Labor Day, ZombieHorde Cha Sep 2013 #9
Thanks! ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #12
Raising the Minimum Wage! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #10
Happy Labor Day, she! A Teddy Kennedy Message from our past.. Cha Sep 2013 #14
He was a great man. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #15
They hate it because they believe many of us were born to be slaves and work for nothing for them. freshwest Sep 2013 #21
Mahalo for that, freshwest! Interesting Cha Sep 2013 #22
Sorry, I didn't spell that right. Plato and Aristotle. Here it is the defense of inequality: freshwest Sep 2013 #23
Right! And, if I hadn't been in such Cha Sep 2013 #31
Not only that, inequality is not an American virtue. Economic justice, full speed ahead. freshwest Sep 2013 #33
LOLZ, at the ADD Cats! Cha Sep 2013 #34
Thom Hartmann's view on ADD: freshwest Sep 2013 #35
Ain't this the truth.. Cha Sep 2013 #36
Thanks, I went to the Lounge. freshwest Sep 2013 #37
"...they want the liberty to own other people as slaves to serve their own interests... SunSeeker Sep 2013 #27
Thanks, SunSeeker! Nice to know who will stand with us instead of RTW Rand, et al. freshwest Sep 2013 #28
Blood, Sweat, Tears and LOVE: freshwest Sep 2013 #18
Don't expect the government or Obama to hand out doc03 Sep 2013 #19
Nevertheless, the Obama Admin and Dems are fighting for Cha Sep 2013 #20
HAPPY LABOR DAY EVERYONE! Raise the minimum wage and TAX THE RICH!!! mountain grammy Sep 2013 #24
Happy Labor Day to you, too! freshwest Sep 2013 #26
HAPPY LABOR DAY TO YOU, MOUNTAIN GRAMMY! I like Cha Sep 2013 #29
thanks, Cha! mountain grammy Sep 2013 #32
Jesse Jackson on Labor: freshwest Sep 2013 #25
Thank you for the vid on Jesse Jackson on Cha Sep 2013 #30
American Labor Day!!!!!!! DevonRex Sep 2013 #38
labor day was always special in my family hopemountain Sep 2013 #39
Wonderful story of your experience, hopemountain! Cha Sep 2013 #40
i raise a cup of tea to you, cha. hopemountain Sep 2013 #41
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