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LeftishBrit

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31. The point is that all these things are dependent on NOT Brexiting
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 09:15 AM
Apr 2017

Xenophobia in particular; it is at the very heart of Brexit policy. And economic issues - the economy will be drastically hit by Brexit. And the NHS and public services, which depend on the economy.

You may be right that if May gets back in, our public services will be irretrievably damaged - or at least very hard to restore. Which is precisely why we should devote our time to fighting the Tories; and that doesn't just mean not changing leader in the middle of the campaign, it means not changing the PLP in the middle of the campaign. The PLP is not the enemy - nor at present are the LibDems; nor is the SNP; the May government is the enemy.

If Labour loses there will be plenty of blame to spread around. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #1
The only way to beat the Tories now is to work all-out for Labour. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #2
Yes. If May gets elected expect Scotland to go independent and Labour will hrmjustin Apr 2017 #3
And the LibDems aren't an anti-Tory party. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #4
They are not on the left like Labour. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #5
They're hardly even in the center. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #8
Realistically, May is highly likely to get re-elected muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #6
I know that. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #19
"Working all out" is one of Labour's problems T_i_B Apr 2017 #7
But isn't that due, as much as anything else, to the fact that the PLP never let up on Corbyn? Ken Burch Apr 2017 #9
No. T_i_B Apr 2017 #10
People are less likely to be good managers Ken Burch Apr 2017 #11
If you ever actually bothered to read what you are replying to... T_i_B Apr 2017 #12
OK, Corbyn could have managed people somewhat better. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #14
It has to be said that there have been grumbles from some SNP activists Denzil_DC Apr 2017 #20
Labour does seem to have it worse than other parties T_i_B Apr 2017 #21
I think someone within the Corbyn movement will write an analysis of that Ken Burch Apr 2017 #22
OK - for this very reason, let's not treat the PLP as our enemy LeftishBrit Apr 2017 #32
Who is or isn't to blame within the Labour Party isn't the point LeftishBrit Apr 2017 #13
And this is why I'm pissed off with Labour T_i_B Apr 2017 #15
Agree LeftishBrit Apr 2017 #16
Suspect that there will be more retirements T_i_B Apr 2017 #17
There's nothing illegitimate or unfair about the concept of deselection. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #23
You must be really annoyed... T_i_B Apr 2017 #24
I am as concerned as you are about the imminent Tory landslide-which can still be prevented. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #25
Well, Momentum are going about winning support for Labour..... T_i_B Apr 2017 #26
The EU isn't the ONLY issue that matters. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #27
Wrong T_i_B Apr 2017 #28
"The EU isn't the ONLY issue that matters." Denzil_DC Apr 2017 #29
That's it exactly T_i_B Apr 2017 #30
Labour should push for a Soft Brexit. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #35
I have said I would have voted Remain. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #33
I suggest you spend a little time reading down the posts on this page Denzil_DC Apr 2017 #36
Whatever else we disagree on... T_i_B Apr 2017 #38
The election is happening, and Corbyn is campaigning to get them out. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #39
The point is that all these things are dependent on NOT Brexiting LeftishBrit Apr 2017 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Apr 2017 #34
OK, in your view, what would it mean for Momentum to "engage with the outside world"? Ken Burch Apr 2017 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Apr 2017 #18
If Labour had vetoed the election, wouldn't that have caused massive blowback against them? Ken Burch Apr 2017 #37
Of course your theory is rubbish! T_i_B Apr 2017 #40
Thanks for the response. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #41
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