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Denzil_DC

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19. I dunno about that. Jones needs to work on his own messaging and consistency first:
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:40 PM
Aug 2016

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Owen Jones
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Being denounced as a Tory, Blairite and Establishment for pointing out Twitter has limited reach is a novel experience

3:15 am - 31 Jul 2016


Owen Jones
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?@OwenJones84

Barely anybody has called me a Blairite or a Tory, by the way, apart from a few eccentric oddballs. So can we drop that narrative. Cheers!

4:00 am - 1 Aug 2016


I've never rated Jones that much, and I've no idea why he's taken so seriously by some. This latest episode just confirms me in that attitude, and reinforces my earlier feelings that he has an over-inflated sense of self-importance and is surprisingly unaware of his own privileged position as a pundit - not that the vast majority of people will know who the hell he is anyway, let alone take him seriously.

I found quite a bit in his article to take with several pinches of salt. The idea that what McDonnell's proposing is identical to Balls' economic strategy for one, his assumption that anybody with any sense or experience of the world at all imagines that Twitter is 100% reflective of public opinion, let alone that activity on it alone can win political campaigns for another, and to boot, his proposition that Labour should waste any time or resources at all on trying to "win back votes in Scotland". The best of luck trying to do that while triangulating as he proposes.
More United? [View all] T_i_B Jul 2016 OP
"A fair, modern, efficient market based economy non sociopath skin Jul 2016 #1
Looks more like the Lib Dem playbook to me! T_i_B Jul 2016 #2
In these times, anything trying to be constructive and inclusive is worth a look LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #3
If Labour holds together it probably won't amount to much T_i_B Jul 2016 #4
I have less faith than you in Owen Smith's ability to lead the Labour Party to unity and success LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #5
Let me put it this way T_i_B Jul 2016 #6
"Basic stuff" should include not demonizing a growing faction of his own party to try to win votes. Denzil_DC Jul 2016 #7
Looking at the Corbyn campaign.... T_i_B Aug 2016 #8
You're talking about "Corbyn supporters" doing the demonizing. Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #9
Both sides are doing it T_i_B Aug 2016 #10
You're talking about "Corbyn supporters" doing the demonizing. Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #11
Corbyn hasn't reined in his trolls. T_i_B Aug 2016 #12
This is such BS. Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #13
Well then, why are Corbyn supporters repeatedly ignoring his calls to not act like twerps? T_i_B Aug 2016 #14
Why is your sockpuppet now rampaging on GD, Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #15
I'd just posted an article from Newsthump in GD! T_i_B Aug 2016 #16
Blah. Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #17
I have actually made the same mistake myself on DU! T_i_B Aug 2016 #18
I dunno about that. Jones needs to work on his own messaging and consistency first: Denzil_DC Aug 2016 #19
People really do think their social media is reflective of real life! T_i_B Aug 2016 #20
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