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In reply to the discussion: Hillary to #blackLivesMatter: "If that is your position then I will talk only to white people" [View all]thesquanderer
(12,002 posts)35. Thanks for that.
Here's some relevant exposition.
When one man suggested in the video that Clinton was being presumptuous by saying the Black Lives Matter movement should consider which policy prescriptions to support, Clinton gestured forcefully as she countered his assertion.
Well, respectfully, if that is your position then I will talk only to white people about how we are going to deal with the very real problems, Clinton said facetiously, before the questioner interjected.
That's not what I mean, he says. What I'm saying is, what you just said was a form of victim-blaming.
At that, Clinton turns partly away from him and starts to shake her head no.
Right? You were saying that what the Black Lives Matter movement needs to do to change white hearts, the man continues, before Clinton interjects.
Look, I don't believe you change hearts, Clinton says, chopping her hands in front of the mans chest for emphasis. I believe you change laws, you change allocation of resources, you change the way systems operate. You're not going to change every heart. Youre not.
Still gesturing, Clinton continued: But at the end of the day, we could do a whole lot to change some hearts and change some systems and create more opportunities for people who deserve to have them, to live up to their own God-given potential, to live safely without fear of violence in their own communities, to have a decent school, to have a decent house, to have a decent future.
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So we can do it one of many ways. You can keep the movement going, which you have started, and through it you may actually change some hearts, Clinton said. But if that's all that happens, we'll be back here in 10 years having the same conversation. We will not have all of the changes that you deserve to see happen in your lifetime because of your willingness to get out there and talk about this.
Well, respectfully, if that is your position then I will talk only to white people about how we are going to deal with the very real problems, Clinton said facetiously, before the questioner interjected.
That's not what I mean, he says. What I'm saying is, what you just said was a form of victim-blaming.
At that, Clinton turns partly away from him and starts to shake her head no.
Right? You were saying that what the Black Lives Matter movement needs to do to change white hearts, the man continues, before Clinton interjects.
Look, I don't believe you change hearts, Clinton says, chopping her hands in front of the mans chest for emphasis. I believe you change laws, you change allocation of resources, you change the way systems operate. You're not going to change every heart. Youre not.
Still gesturing, Clinton continued: But at the end of the day, we could do a whole lot to change some hearts and change some systems and create more opportunities for people who deserve to have them, to live up to their own God-given potential, to live safely without fear of violence in their own communities, to have a decent school, to have a decent house, to have a decent future.
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So we can do it one of many ways. You can keep the movement going, which you have started, and through it you may actually change some hearts, Clinton said. But if that's all that happens, we'll be back here in 10 years having the same conversation. We will not have all of the changes that you deserve to see happen in your lifetime because of your willingness to get out there and talk about this.
One can agree or disagree with her assessment, but to take that line out of context and call her racist is, not just unfair, but IMO, irresponsible.
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Hillary to #blackLivesMatter: "If that is your position then I will talk only to white people" [View all]
Cheese Sandwich
Oct 2015
OP
What she said did not start or end there, why cut it, are you trying to make a statement
Perseus
Oct 2015
#1
Trey Gowdy is said to be auditioning for a vacant investigator position to Get Clinton.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#4
It is quite sad that some find it necessary to resort to distortion and deception
still_one
Oct 2015
#5
Some either refuse to learn or are incapable of learning or are purposely riding a one trick pony.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#6
The clip is deception, recycled deception at that...do you really not agree?
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#8
Everything you imply is refuted by Clinton's 4 years as SOS, not to mention her entire lifetime.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#24
As opposed to BS when he doesn't like being challenged: "Bernie Sanders leaves Westlake Rally ".
Tarheel_Dem
Oct 2015
#31
He made a really good point, and that IS what she shoud be doing. When will she
jtuck004
Oct 2015
#12
And I might not too, since fucking white people ARE the god damn problem. There is NOTHING
jtuck004
Oct 2015
#34
This doesn't quite reach the level of the Planned Parenthood tape editing but it's close
brush
Oct 2015
#15
Nope. This is a totally fair edit. If Bernie had said this his campaign would be over.
Cheese Sandwich
Oct 2015
#17
Hillary's comment there was racist. I bet a comment like that would get someone banned from DU.
Cheese Sandwich
Oct 2015
#23
I'm not so sure that "DU isn't stupid as repugs who believe, or claim to believe". 7 recs so far.
Tarheel_Dem
Oct 2015
#22
The whole OP is a deception, but is recommended by now 8 others? Not as bad as some deception OP's!
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#25
There is no context that would make it OK. If you said it on a liberal web forum like DU it would
Cheese Sandwich
Oct 2015
#28