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calimary

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48. Welcome to DU, Gamecock Lefty!
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 03:04 PM
Apr 2015

Glad you're here. Welcome to The Big Debate! There are those of us hoping to encourage people to vote. And vote realistically.

Hey, I LOVE LOVE LOVE Elizabeth Warren. I think she's TERRIFIC! I LOVE her ideas and I contributed repeatedly to her Senate campaign, even though I'm a Californian. Some of me hopes that a President Hillary Clinton would appoint Elizabeth Warren to Treasury Secretary or to the Supreme Court - where she can have the biggest impact. You can bet your sweet patootie NO republi-CON president would even consider doing that! Elizabeth Warren does NOT want to run. She's expressed this repeatedly. There are still many who want her to change her mind. But I take her at her word. So I've moved on from that. I'd rather be practical.

Bernie Sanders? LOVE LOVE LOVE him, too! He's WONDERFUL!!!! But even HE says he will NOT be a spoiler so that a republi-CON gets in. And I appreciate that. He understands the game and doesn't want to pee on our parade just to satisfy his own ego, the way ralph nader did. No chance in Hell to win, but he went ahead anyway, and peed on Al Gore's parade enough - to allow the bad guys to get close enough to steal it.

It still makes me ACHE - to think about the "what-ifs" there. All those nader votes across the country, and especially in Florida - if they'd all (or even most of them had) gone to Gore, there would be NO possibility of a bush/cheney White House. There would likely have been no Iraq War. Since Al Gore didn't fill his foreign policy support staff with any of the neoCONS with their hard-ons for war war war and more war. Which means - think of all the military veterans who would still be walking around on their own two able-bodied legs today. Which means, Saddam might still be at work messing with the Iranians and keeping them distracted. The Middle East wouldn't be so damn disrupted and in such disarray that ISIS and other asshole groups couldn't have gained quite the foothold they have. There might not even have been a 9-11. Because there likely would have been continuity from the Clinton era. What was the last thing the outgoing Clinton people warned the incoming bush/cheney people? TERRORISM. It's gonna be your main thing. And what did bush/cheney do? Put it on IGNORE. Al Gore wouldn't have waited til September 10th to hold his first "let's look at the terrorism issue" meeting - the way dick cheney did - and cheney's attitude then was half-hearted and no-big-deal, not-a-priority, who-gives-a-fuck.

Just think. Just imagine. Just ask yourself - what life would have been like in the last decade with an Al Gore White House? Where would we be NOW, with that kind of continuity built upon? And considering it was Al Gore - WHERE WOULD WE BE NOW ON CIMATE CHANGE???? And the very survival of life on this planet, including OUR OWN? Probably more than halfway to reversing it, is my guess.

Spoilers. Don't like 'em. Unless they're working the other side of the aisle. Ross Perot I like. 'Cause he fucked it up for bush1 the first time Bill Clinton ran, and also fucked it up for bob dole four years later, when Bill Clinton ran for reelection.

Proud to be first kick and second rec. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #1
Finding myself surprisingly excited cilla4progress Apr 2015 #2
Me too!!! Caretha Apr 2015 #69
Contrary to the opinion of some,I like the picture, too. nt UtahLib Apr 2015 #3
"Everyday Americans" JEB Apr 2015 #4
Do you work on Wall Street ? Then Yes bahrbearian Apr 2015 #5
BWAHAHAH! So true. Helen Borg Apr 2015 #9
No, I earn my money. JEB Apr 2015 #11
HAHAHAHA Jester Messiah Apr 2015 #23
I think I'm not. Helen Borg Apr 2015 #10
Wait, today is the 13th. eomer Apr 2015 #13
Not to mention prime. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #15
Why odd? I live in Sydney. Helen Borg Apr 2015 #29
Well that's odd, isn't it? eomer Apr 2015 #41
:) most people live somewhere else Helen Borg Apr 2015 #55
Not sure "Jeb" Renew Deal Apr 2015 #21
So we have a real presidential candidate posting on DU in his own name. *just kidding* freshwest Apr 2015 #46
That's right Renew Deal Apr 2015 #50
Not if a republican gets into office in which case just bend over and kiss your butt goodbye. nt cstanleytech Apr 2015 #27
Then start SHRED Apr 2015 #6
GMOs? Gamecock Lefty Apr 2015 #30
New Report Debunks 'Myth' That GMOs are Key to Feeding the World JEB Apr 2015 #59
Good old everyday Americans like: Botany Apr 2015 #7
Testify!!!!!!!!!!! Ford_Prefect Apr 2015 #36
Painfully on target. pangaia Apr 2015 #88
Not gonna work, I'm afraid... Helen Borg Apr 2015 #8
11th rec! And our march to Marxism proceeds! freshwest Apr 2015 #12
Who is she talking TO and talking ABOUT in those statements??? dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #17
Yes! Caretha Apr 2015 #70
Actually, I liked some of those statements better before I read the contexts. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #18
Fox News will have a field day with those quotes. LiberalLovinLug Apr 2015 #40
And 'ultra progressives' will still not embrace her for those quotes, will they? n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #45
This posting makes freshwest sound like Fox News QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #64
Hello? Faux Noise? You say it's not at the link? freshwest Apr 2015 #71
Looks like you're going to be waiting forever for that apology, fresh. Cha Apr 2015 #74
You are right, it is in there and I apologize QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #75
Then you can use the edit feature to fix your post. n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #76
Good Advice! Cha Apr 2015 #77
It's easy and doesn't leave misconceptions laying about. See ya later, Cha! n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #78
Done QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #82
Before you call others RW, check their posts and Journal. Not going for it. n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #84
Never meant to be personal QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #85
Hi fresh.. pangaia Apr 2015 #89
Bingo, and thank you QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #93
You should not write freshwest is like faux news.. it's ridiculous. You had a chance to edit out Cha Apr 2015 #86
But it was like Fox News QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #94
By the way, you should know QuestionAlways Apr 2015 #95
These are totally misleading. It is something that I would expect from FOX. olegramps Apr 2015 #90
Go Hillary. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #14
KICK and HUGE REC--wish I could rec more than once!!! nt MADem Apr 2015 #16
Kick & very highly recommended. William769 Apr 2015 #19
So sweet Geronimoe Apr 2015 #20
that's a great message! samsingh Apr 2015 #22
Has she changed her mind on the need for the TPP? MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #24
how about her stance on increasing h-1b visa limits? antigop Apr 2015 #56
or "outsourcing will continue"? antigop Apr 2015 #57
she ain't my champion...that's for sure. nt antigop Apr 2015 #58
neat trick--make anyone not waving the banners and wishing her the best MisterP Apr 2015 #66
That's what she wants chapdrum Apr 2015 #25
Sorry, Hillary. I just don't believe you. [n/t] Maedhros Apr 2015 #26
I don't either. 840high Apr 2015 #32
I've been around this block before. Maedhros Apr 2015 #35
Then by all means make sure you ask jeb bush for it. Or ted cruz. Or marco rubio. Or rand paul. calimary Apr 2015 #42
Worn out old line. 840high Apr 2015 #43
Not so much. calimary Apr 2015 #44
here's another time(ly) reference chapdrum Apr 2015 #60
Thank you calimary - I just don't get asiliveandbreathe Apr 2015 #62
Fear card. Non sequitur. grahamhgreen Apr 2015 #81
unless she changes my mind PatrynXX Apr 2015 #28
Geez! Gamecock Lefty Apr 2015 #31
Welcome to DU, Gamecock Lefty! calimary Apr 2015 #48
I'm sure she'll be the champion of everyday Americans azurnoir Apr 2015 #33
Hillary is a good choice polynomial Apr 2015 #34
Fine. Tell me how you INTEND to be that champion. nt rocktivity Apr 2015 #37
Gee, the Democratic Party has been around for nearly 200 years. Buenaventura Apr 2015 #38
Lets get it started workinclasszero Apr 2015 #39
This is exactly the kind of thing that assures I won't vote for her... RiverNoord Apr 2015 #47
Good post. 840high Apr 2015 #52
Oh? So, if she's wins the Democratic Nom.. you're sitting home? Cha Apr 2015 #63
No - I wouldn't 'sit home,' but RiverNoord Apr 2015 #73
IMO that's a great picture of her HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #49
yes it is!!! Caretha Apr 2015 #68
Proud Hillary Supporter here! leftofcool Apr 2015 #51
Proud Hillary Supporter here! c588415 Apr 2015 #65
Oh, good. Alkene Apr 2015 #53
"Everyday Americans" is so tone deaf rjsquirrel Apr 2015 #54
Thank you EarlG - nice pic - considering all the negative asiliveandbreathe Apr 2015 #61
What a wonderful sound bite!!!!! Caretha Apr 2015 #67
Let's Hope She Is colsohlibgal Apr 2015 #72
http://nativemobile.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Dont-Pity-the-1-Percent-Tapdaq-CMO-Seek blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #79
That is vapor talk. What is her position on the American family destroying TPP, or taxing the rich, grahamhgreen Apr 2015 #80
I for one am very happy and proud. BlueMTexpat Apr 2015 #83
Our country desperately needed a champion in October 2002 Martin Eden Apr 2015 #87
Yes, judge me by what I say, not by what I do. Damansarajaya Apr 2015 #91
Sounds good. jalan48 Apr 2015 #92
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