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17. And you should try reading what I actually wrote.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 12:16 AM
Mar 2015

Last edited Sat Mar 14, 2015, 01:11 AM - Edit history (1)

Yup, I'm sure. And so from now on, whenever a population wants to secede or join another country, then it's OK for the other country to invade and take it? Imagine if that were the norm around the world, given all the minority populations there are. We would have about 100 more wars going on worldwide. That would "magnify the hate day after day after day" more than anything.


There are a lot of populations that want to be part of another country. But that doesn't justify one country just grabbing that population/territory away from the other. That's what we have diplomacy, negotiations, and treaties for. Just because Sudeten Germans wanted to join the German Fatherland does not give Germany the right to take that part of Czechoslovakia.

There are Russian minority populations in many of the countries bounding Russia. Does that give a right for Russia to invade, yes invade, these countries to grab those territories? (Crimea was Ukrainian territory).

And I still think Thom Hartmann was an idiot for implying we would annex Bahrain or the naval base if they tried to kick us out of our naval base, and using that as an excuse for saying its OK for Russia to annex Crimea because we'd do the same to Bahrain. Cuckoo. It was Thom Hartmann by the way that used that shitty analogy, not me, and that was the whole point of my original post (#3).



If "magnifying hate" is not being Neville Chamberlain and meekly acquiescing in territorial grabbing, than so be it.
There is plenty of blame to go around project_bluebook Mar 2015 #1
He'd be kicked off of RT if he didn't adopt their language. Not a shred of integrity ($$$$$$). Tarheel_Dem Mar 2015 #2
Hartmann's worst moment was when he justified Russia annexing Crimea, saying U.S. would have done progree Mar 2015 #3
Crimea voted massively to join Russia. delrem Mar 2015 #6
Yup, I'm sure. And so from now on, whenever a population wants to secede or join progree Mar 2015 #8
Read what *you* wrote, that I responded to! delrem Mar 2015 #9
you referring to the fake referendum that Putin admits he was planning to take Crimea well before? uhnope Mar 2015 #13
1.2 million turnout JonLP24 Mar 2015 #20
And you should try reading what I actually wrote. progree Mar 2015 #17
if you insist on being rational, making sense and using any kind of moral compass uhnope Mar 2015 #24
Finally! Someone who gets it. nt uhnope Mar 2015 #12
OMG malokvale77 Mar 2015 #4
demagoguery? delrem Mar 2015 #5
I understand what you are saying, but I think you are misunderstanding the historical JDPriestly Mar 2015 #7
You are mischaracterizing their conversation. Hartmann is the best liberal radio show on the air. fasttense Mar 2015 #10
thx for yr msg. We don't disagree, really uhnope Mar 2015 #11
Well, Putin is losing, at least here in the US fasttense Mar 2015 #14
I don't think the USA can be blamed for Russia's economic problems since the collapse of the USSR uhnope Mar 2015 #15
Agreed about the human rights violations in Putin's Russia. JDPriestly Mar 2015 #18
Wilson, Espionage Act, and J. Edgar Hoover JonLP24 Mar 2015 #23
thx, ordering that book today. uhnope Mar 2015 #25
+10 appalachiablue Mar 2015 #16
Ukraine has a lot of problems. Greedy & corrupt are a big part of that problem JonLP24 Mar 2015 #19
I don't think anyone would argue that Ukraine's government... Adrahil Mar 2015 #21
Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe JonLP24 Mar 2015 #22
OMG! A lets bash Thom Hartmann thread. I haven't seen one of these Cleita Mar 2015 #26
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