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In reply to the discussion: Thom Hartmann's worst moment? As Russia prepared war, Hartmann & Wolff blamed the EU [View all]progree
(10,990 posts)17. And you should try reading what I actually wrote.
Last edited Sat Mar 14, 2015, 01:11 AM - Edit history (1)
Yup, I'm sure. And so from now on, whenever a population wants to secede or join another country, then it's OK for the other country to invade and take it? Imagine if that were the norm around the world, given all the minority populations there are. We would have about 100 more wars going on worldwide. That would "magnify the hate day after day after day" more than anything.
There are a lot of populations that want to be part of another country. But that doesn't justify one country just grabbing that population/territory away from the other. That's what we have diplomacy, negotiations, and treaties for. Just because Sudeten Germans wanted to join the German Fatherland does not give Germany the right to take that part of Czechoslovakia.
There are Russian minority populations in many of the countries bounding Russia. Does that give a right for Russia to invade, yes invade, these countries to grab those territories? (Crimea was Ukrainian territory).
And I still think Thom Hartmann was an idiot for implying we would annex Bahrain or the naval base if they tried to kick us out of our naval base, and using that as an excuse for saying its OK for Russia to annex Crimea because we'd do the same to Bahrain. Cuckoo. It was Thom Hartmann by the way that used that shitty analogy, not me, and that was the whole point of my original post (#3).
If "magnifying hate" is not being Neville Chamberlain and meekly acquiescing in territorial grabbing, than so be it.
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Thom Hartmann's worst moment? As Russia prepared war, Hartmann & Wolff blamed the EU [View all]
uhnope
Mar 2015
OP
He'd be kicked off of RT if he didn't adopt their language. Not a shred of integrity ($$$$$$).
Tarheel_Dem
Mar 2015
#2
Hartmann's worst moment was when he justified Russia annexing Crimea, saying U.S. would have done
progree
Mar 2015
#3
Yup, I'm sure. And so from now on, whenever a population wants to secede or join
progree
Mar 2015
#8
you referring to the fake referendum that Putin admits he was planning to take Crimea well before?
uhnope
Mar 2015
#13
if you insist on being rational, making sense and using any kind of moral compass
uhnope
Mar 2015
#24
I understand what you are saying, but I think you are misunderstanding the historical
JDPriestly
Mar 2015
#7
You are mischaracterizing their conversation. Hartmann is the best liberal radio show on the air.
fasttense
Mar 2015
#10