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longship

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4. Again, who is going to analyze all the "he goes"/"she goes" nonsense?
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 09:42 PM
Jun 2013

(a metaphor for 99.9999% of our mundane lives) for the important stuff?

How many people are needed to listen to these putatively recorded multi-million phone calls per day in the USA alone?

Oh yes! They have some wonderful speech to text programming which they have somehow miraculously hidden from Apple with their Siri? (Which by the way you ought to try some day. It isn't very good with phone conversation level voices, let alone vernacular.)

I don't buy it. Not for a second. It's paranoia like the drones under our beds crowd.

But let's put this into realistic perspective.

The NSA is a huge threat and the recent revelations only support what many of us in the tech/science industry have been speaking about for years.

But when people make shit up, it does not help, it harms what advantage we might have, what those of us who have cared about this issue for years have been speaking out about.

Stop making shit up!

Go to reliable sources. Some suggestions:

Bruce Schneier

Electronic Freedom Foundation

Tim Berners-Lee

Another source from the legal side:
Lawrence Lessig

And others who have had skin in the game from day one.

This technology has a history going back to ARPANET, but also most importantly to Al Gore championing further development through Congress passed during Bush I.

Some of us were on to it early and understand that no matter what of pop culture portrayals it still obeys the network protocols which are, for good or bad, publicly available, always have, and always will be. That's what we all have to fight for, as well as transparency in government.

But along the way, let's not be making shit up just because you read it on DU.

Again, I despise what the NSA is doing. But if we are going to fight it we have to speak from a position based on facts.

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