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ancianita

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10. Why would you think this...

Fri Mar 15, 2024, 08:56 AM

Mar 15

China, with all the problems it represents, is infinitely preferable as Tik Tok's owner to Steve Mnuchin and his MAGA investment group.

Another perspective:
Steve Mnuchin and MAGA investment are under legal regulation jurisdiction in the US. Nothing China does can be controlled, only reacted to.
China offers our billionaire class a piece of their action without any guarantee that the nation they live in will be secure from the stealth cyber actions of this powerful & hostile world competitor.
These decisions are pro-active, and more far reaching in curbing the billionaire class's dealings with China (which can harm the US without international recourse) than the billionaire class's grifty manipulations of MAGA, which they use as domestic distraction but which, under the umbrella of national security, can be legally manageable.

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The TikTok Problem Is Not What You Think [View all] BootinUp Mar 15 OP

From what I'm reading............................ Lovie777 Mar 15 #1

Its a nice illusion. nt BootinUp Mar 15 #2

Which arm of the USA? mzmolly Mar 15 #12

Great discussion of the background. cachukis Mar 15 #3

Why now? Republicans want to buy the platform youth uses. 58Sunliner Mar 15 #4

I believe it's just part of *rumps' reelection campaign which he started in 2020 Uncle Joe Mar 16 #72

He flipped because they are trying to buy it. 58Sunliner Mar 16 #73

I'm under the impression that Tic or Tix Tok will not fall into the................... Lovie777 Mar 15 #5

Steve Mnuchin is putting together a group to buy it. So there is every possibility that it will. Scrivener7 Mar 15 #7

Where are the links related to all this part about Mnuchin? No one's posting them. ancianita Mar 15 #38

Yesterday: Ponietz Mar 15 #63

I see. Thank you. ancianita Mar 15 #68

Here's where he lost me: Scrivener7 Mar 15 #6

We will have to disagree. nt BootinUp Mar 15 #9

Why would you think this... ancianita Mar 15 #10

They aren't going to use this as a "domestic distraction." This is a right wing attempt to take over social media. Scrivener7 Mar 15 #15

The current situation on Facebook and Instragram/Threads BootinUp Mar 15 #19

If it gives Tik Tok to MAGA, yes this is really so wrong. Scrivener7 Mar 15 #21

Maybe not. Who knows the mind of the billionaire class but through their actions both seen and reported. ancianita Mar 15 #28

He has sent you checks for stealth uses of facial recognition gathering and sales. He sent you checks for that. Scrivener7 Mar 15 #32

I hear you. But you need to hear that it COST Zuckerberg. The government you fault will ancianita Mar 15 #37

And again. I guarantee the cost compared to the revenue was miniscule. Scrivener7 Mar 15 #43

About this... Neither do you know that they do. Why do you think the Biden FTC's tackling this at all. So we DO know. ancianita Mar 15 #41

Oh, Lord. Have a nice day. Scrivener7 Mar 15 #44

lol you, too ancianita Mar 15 #62

I fully agree with you. mzmolly Mar 15 #13

An excellent analysis that underscores just how brilliant Joe Biden's administration is, and how media ancianita Mar 15 #8

Then the Biden administration should tackle all of the issues mzmolly Mar 15 #14

I think, while you don't have a fully cooperative legislative branch, you can ONLY do it piecemeal. Scrivener7 Mar 15 #16

Then don't do it now. mzmolly Mar 15 #47

I disagree with that. Getting any control over this, if that's even possible, will take years if not decades. Scrivener7 Mar 15 #49

That'll sell well. Just like "defund police" - mzmolly Mar 15 #50

I never said I was for banning tiktok, and I'm not for it. Not sure where you got that. Scrivener7 Mar 15 #52

Pardon my reactionary misunderstanding. mzmolly Mar 15 #58

No worries! Scrivener7 Mar 15 #64

Making the perfect the enemy of the good? First things first: build legal precedent. That's not a piecemeal ancianita Mar 15 #20

Then why aren't they tackling election machines / software first? redqueen Mar 15 #27

I thought the elections machines' viability had been tested in the courts? Do you have links to back up what you ancianita Mar 15 #36

It's not good without considering the outcome. mzmolly Mar 15 #48

Let's deal with it after Biden is reelected & on a more comprehensive level. mzmolly Mar 15 #11

It will be for moniss Mar 15 #18

When I look at Tik Tok moniss Mar 15 #17

And the Cambridge Analytica crap happened because Zuckerberg made it happen in his fully US owned company Scrivener7 Mar 15 #22

With zero calls to ban it. redqueen Mar 15 #25

Lots of folks here were quite sneery when concerns were raised. They insisted there was nothing wrong Scrivener7 Mar 15 #29

Ugh. Glad I wasn't here to see that. redqueen Mar 15 #31

And installed a team in Trump Tower to help Cambridge Analytica identify likely targets to apply psy ops to to get them Scrivener7 Mar 15 #34

What makes you think that will not happen mzmolly Mar 15 #51

Doesn't the Chinese government control the TikTok algorithms? dlk Mar 15 #23

And Musk controls the X algorithms, and Zuckerberg, who gave Facebook over to Jared to use as his Scrivener7 Mar 15 #26

Facebook's algorithms aren't near as bad anymore. Elessar Zappa Mar 15 #33

Are you sure about that? What makes you think so? Scrivener7 Mar 15 #35

Just personal experience and what I've read. Elessar Zappa Mar 15 #54

That just means they have identified you as a non-productive target for the right wing. Scrivener7 Mar 15 #56

They are all worse and need comprehensive legislation SouthernDem4ever Mar 15 #39

I wouldn't care. I hate social media, for all these reasons, and don't use any but DU. But I don't think anyone Scrivener7 Mar 15 #45

You may be right that's it's a catch22 SouthernDem4ever Mar 15 #46

The big problem with the algorithms is that the user is the product to be monetized dlk Mar 15 #53

I used to say if you use social media, you have to be aware that is happening and that you are agreeing Scrivener7 Mar 15 #55

there is no evidence that the chinese government 'controls the algorithm' of tik tok. Voltaire2 Mar 15 #65

Controls the data... dlk Mar 15 #67

two different things but not the data either. Voltaire2 Mar 15 #69

I am disgusted that this issue is being treated seriously while our election system is still vulnerable redqueen Mar 15 #24

I greatly admire your passion. BootinUp Mar 15 #30

What makes you think the election system security isn't being dealt with? SouthernDem4ever Mar 15 #40

Thread on GD has other articles redqueen Mar 15 #57

K & R bookmarking FakeNoose Mar 15 #42

I don't use Tik-Toc, X, Facebook, but I am interested in what happens with DU. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 15 #59

I refuse to accept this argument that we BootinUp Mar 15 #60

Trump is the bigger danger to our collective mzmolly Mar 15 #61

I believe this is a situation where we take BootinUp Mar 15 #66

Argument? It's a real concern. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 15 #70

Not sure I follow what you mean. BootinUp Mar 15 #71