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marmar

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Tue Mar 5, 2024, 10:44 AM Mar 5

There is something wrong at the New York Times [View all]

There is something wrong at the New York Times
From the paper’s presidential polling to noncoverage of Trump’s stumbles, things aren’t adding up at the Gray Lady

By LUCIAN K. TRUSCOTT IV
Columnist
PUBLISHED MARCH 5, 2024 9:01AM (EST)


(Salon) Two things…check that…three things appear to have gone off the rails at the paper we used to call the Gray Lady. First, whoever is in charge of the paper’s polls is not doing their job. Second, whoever is choosing what to emphasize in the Times coverage of the campaign for the presidency is showing bias. Third, the Times is obsessed with Joe Biden’s age at the same time they’re leaving evidence of Donald Trump’s mental and verbal stumbles completely out of the news.

Let’s start right there. At a rally on Saturday night in Virginia, Trump confused former president Obama, who left office seven years ago, with President Biden for the third time over the last six months. “Putin has so little respect for Obama that he’s starting to throw around the nuclear word,” Trump said, as his crowd of rabid supporters suddenly fell silent. “You heard that. Nuclear. He’s starting to talk nuclear weapons today.” You won’t find that verbal stumble and the crowd’s stunned reaction in the Times coverage of the campaign over the weekend. You’ll have to subscribe to the online version of The Guardian if you want to learn how Trump is losing his way mid-sentence at rallies and just mumbling incoherently.

The Times on Sunday, however, had this headline ready for your morning coffee: “Majority of Biden’s 2020 Voters Now Say He’s Too Old to be Effective.” It’s another grab from the New York Times/Siena College poll they published on Saturday that is so outrageously flawed, a cottage industry has sprung up to pick apart its methodology and point out its glaring contradictions and straight-up bias.

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The truly incredible thing is that the New York Times provides the evidence that would cause any other reasonable journalistic enterprise to question the accuracy of its own poll. The poll shows that Trump still has the support of nearly every Republican who voted for him in 2020 – this in the face of the fact that between 30 and 40 percent of primary voters have chosen another candidate than Trump. Those people are not poll respondents. They’re voters. The Times/Siena poll also somehow comes up with 12 percent support among Democrats for Dean Phillips, who has yet to get more than two percent of the vote in a primary. Even Phillips himself put out a tweet that said “When the NYT/Siena poll shows me at 12%, you better believe it’s flawed. Only 5% even know who I am.” The poll also shows that among respondents who described themselves as unhappy with both candidates, they favor Biden over Trump by 12 points. So, Biden has the utterly disaffected vote and carries independents by four points, and he’s losing to Trump by four points? ................(more)

https://www.salon.com/2024/03/05/there-is-something-at-the-new-york-times/




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Agreed........................ Lovie777 Mar 5 #1
More like a business decision shrike3 Mar 5 #25
Real journalists dont base their work on business decisions Flatrat Mar 5 #34
Well said DENVERPOPS Mar 5 #35
Real journalists write the columns, one hopes. But real corporate owners are beholden to shareholders... Hekate Mar 5 #44
Seems they are targeting those multigraincracker Mar 5 #2
And losing the rest Joinfortmill Mar 5 #31
I cancelled my subscription to the NYT back in 2016 due to the unfair coverage of Clinton LetMyPeopleVote Mar 5 #3
We cancelled last fall. Don't miss it. nt LittleGirl Mar 5 #5
I miss the Sunday Times mountain grammy Mar 5 #9
Hubby was a life long reader LittleGirl Mar 5 #11
I cancelled a few weeks ago. Straw that broke the camel's back spooky3 Mar 5 #12
And before that the NYT helped spread GW's bogus case for war in Iraq Martin Eden Mar 5 #33
I cancelled my subscription to the NYT in 22 RainCaster Mar 5 #4
I suppose we should not be surprised. The Times clearly helped elect Trump in 2016 with their Clinton bashing. Lonestarblue Mar 5 #6
I never read claudette Mar 5 #7
Agreed. mn9driver Mar 5 #8
They were ever thus: intheflow Mar 5 #10
Just more "Hillary Clinton's email" bullshit. Cancel if you have a subscription Ray Bruns Mar 5 #13
I cancelled a couple months ago.. bsiebs Mar 5 #14
The Washington Post.... SergeStorms Mar 5 #48
Agreed... My brother is in Baltimore, and he subscribes to the WaPo... He references it often.. bsiebs Mar 5 #50
Ah.. cannot get the printed version daily..just digital.. Well that works for me.. only $40 for the entire year.. bsiebs Mar 5 #51
Good for you! SergeStorms Mar 6 #52
I canceled years ago. Only wish i could cancel again! NYT made it real hard 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 5 #15
It has been RocRizzo55 Mar 5 #16
This Sunday's edition did it for me nikatnyte Mar 5 #17
The New York Times is the Nikki Haley of Ted Cruz's. Mr. Evil Mar 5 #18
B4 digital I used to read the times almost cover to cover. I dropped my digital subscription several years ago PortTack Mar 5 #19
DONE!!!! drumpfsucks Mar 5 #20
They're Algorithm Chasing modrepub Mar 5 #21
Who owns the NYT? orthoclad Mar 5 #22
ownership info here: elleng Mar 5 #26
Interlocking board? orthoclad Mar 5 #36
Yes hereditary, been in the family for ages. elleng Mar 5 #37
NYTimes Board of Directors: elleng Mar 5 #45
A capitalist who's-who orthoclad Mar 7 #55
It couldn't possibly be that it's Republican owned. live love laugh Mar 5 #23
Yes. Glad being noticed and published. Info about ownership below: elleng Mar 5 #24
Bruni and Krugman are regular columnists. They are liberals. CTyankee Mar 5 #27
Saw CNN going on and on about this an new it was BS underpants Mar 5 #28
Striving to be "The Whitewash or Record". nt eppur_se_muova Mar 5 #29
NYT has drunk the koolaid Joinfortmill Mar 5 #30
Translation: enigmania Mar 5 #32
And more publications... 2naSalit Mar 5 #38
Glad Salon is calling the gray lady out onetexan Mar 5 #39
The NYT was obsessed with "clouds and shadows" and Hillary's emails. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 5 #40
When Biden wins in a landslide, NYT will be standing naked on the stage of their own making. Sogo Mar 5 #41
It's quite likely that billionaires and oligarchs (is there a difference?)... Eyeball_Kid Mar 5 #43
Find out who is in these positions that allows this type of reporting. (or non-reporting) hadEnuf Mar 5 #42
It is hard to see a pattern here dalton99a Mar 5 #46
For decades they have been drmeow Mar 5 #47
To call NYT the shills for the republican party and it's policies would be a laughing matter... usaf-vet Mar 5 #49
There is bias in all the media. Aussie105 Mar 6 #53
ABC News w/ David Muir Last Night... Mr. Mustard 2023 Mar 6 #54
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