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karynnj

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11. Wow, I was not for Clinton in the primaries either
Wed Nov 15, 2017, 08:59 PM
Nov 2017

and was very disturbed that he was never willing to just admit the truth on any past transgressions until he had no other choice. On Vietnam there was never a reason to lie about everything he did to avoid going.

The truth, that he was completely against the war and by 1969 and an intern for Fullbright, he knew facts that meant he could say that he absolutely knew that there was no US interest in fighting this war. In contrast the price to fight would have been to give up an earned year as a Rhodes scholar at Oxford. How many sons of single mothers growing up in Arkansas ever had that chance. I was female, in college at the same time. I did not face the same fate of serving in a war I did not believe in - nor - though a good student - did I have the opportunity of being a Rhodes scholar. I doubt anyone in my generation, who would consider voting for a Democrat, would not accept the truth and admire that he found a legal way out. (the snotty letter to the military official who gave him the ROTC out was uncalled for and unnecessary, but written by a man in his twenties.)

He was given a pass for his affair, but before getting it he trashed the woman - completely unnecessary. That actually bothered me more than the affair.

None of that was why I was not for him. He was too conservative and he had a terrible environmental record in Arkansas. However, when he became the nominee, I supported him and read his putting people first and found the areas I agreed. When I next questioned supporting him was when his minions, Begala and Carville, attacked John Kerry in the general election by labeling him "Anybody but Bush" - a meme that really hurt and not really reasonable in a general election, in anger I realized that had I followed the logic of his minions -- I was not a supporter of Clinton, I was "anybody but Bush". I think I was better canvassing and calling when I thought I supported Clinton ... rather than just being ABB.

I was a supporter of Bill Clinton, but you definately did a fine job of assembling your .... marble falls Nov 2017 #1
Bookmarking. K & R n/t rzemanfl Nov 2017 #2
Thoughtful indeed. Recommended. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #3
I agree with you, I do remember a photo of Monica Lewinsky flirting with him Motley13 Nov 2017 #4
Great post BeyondGeography Nov 2017 #5
There were no "correct" choices for her to make, politically. TygrBright Nov 2017 #9
Very compelling and significant. TY.. stuffmatters Nov 2017 #6
K and R n/t RockCreek Nov 2017 #7
What is your point? Maraya1969 Nov 2017 #8
"If everything has to have a point... then I must have one, too!" TygrBright Nov 2017 #10
It is just that anytime a Republican wants to divert attention from one of their Maraya1969 Nov 2017 #12
Wow, I was not for Clinton in the primaries either karynnj Nov 2017 #11
Was there truth to the charge of "past transgressions"? Nitram Nov 2017 #17
Was James Toback? Was Mark Halperin? Was Brett Ratner? TygrBright Nov 2017 #19
I admit that I suspect Republicans would do whatever they could to bring the Clintons down. Nitram Nov 2017 #22
He basically admitted to "causing pain in his marriage" - a reference to karynnj Nov 2017 #21
That was a courageous OP GaryCnf Nov 2017 #13
Thank you! TygrBright Nov 2017 #14
Finally.... CanSocDem Nov 2017 #15
This post exaggerates and uses adjectives designed to evoke disgust without providing evidence to Nitram Nov 2017 #16
The term "skeeve" is a description of the behavior. TygrBright Nov 2017 #18
Your gratuitous repetition of the term while essentially repeating the same charge substantially Nitram Nov 2017 #23
Well-said, Bright. k&r, nt appal_jack Nov 2017 #20
Fuck that shit.... Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #24
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