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Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
7. plz
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:00 PM
Jun 2016
While many viewers may have been sympathetic to Cooper’s allegation of opportunism, there is no reason to doubt Clinton’s account of her position on trade. It would be foolish to think that because she had once supported the TPP in principle, she should remain committed to it unconditionally. Furthermore, Clinton’s longer record shows an increasing reluctance to support the free trade agenda that characterized her husband’s administration twenty years ago. While she has supported many past free trade agreements, she voted against the Central American Free Trade Area (CAFTA) in 2005, while she was a senator. In 2007, reflecting on the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), she offered mixed support, explaining, “what we have learned is that we have to drive a tougher bargain.” By 2008, she had concluded that NAFTA “had not lived up to its promises.” Later that year, she broke with members of her own campaign team — and her husband — over a free trade agreement with Colombia.

In more recent years, Clinton’s positions on trade have partly reflected the needs of the Obama Administration in which she served as Secretary of State. But they also show a commendable willingness to scrutinize the specifics. Not all trade deals are created equal, and what matters are the details. Support for one deal should not automatically translate into support for another — but explaining how the details matter, and why, is hard to do in a campaign slogan or a quick response in a televised debate.

Cooper is just the latest in a line of commentators who have criticized Clinton for a supposed flip-flop on the TPP. Clinton’s critics are quick to point out that, as Secretary of State, she was involved in the early phase of negotiations that would lead to the TPP. In that capacity, she gave many speeches on behalf of the deal, which are now being trucked out as evidence of her inconsistency. It’s true that Clinton supported the TPP in the “ideas phase,” when she hoped that it could be concluded in line with her priorities for a broader reconfiguration of American foreign policy — the “pivot to Asia” that was one of the hallmarks of her leadership at the State Department. But to anyone who has studied Clinton’s record on this matter, her current opposition to the TPP comes as neither surprising nor sudden.

In fact, since leaving her position as Secretary of State, she has been offering frequent, subtle warnings that she would not unconditionally support the TPP. In public speeches and in her memoir Hard Choices, Clinton praised the agreement in principle, but always with some reservations. As delicately as she could, given the decorum demanded of someone who was a former member of the sitting administration, she signaled to the Obama White House that her support for the TPP was contingent on the final deal meeting her requirements for trade in the twenty-first century. Foremost among these requirements are that new trade deals should help American workers and not hurt national security.

It was entirely appropriate for Clinton to withhold judgment on the TPP until the final deal was concluded, and she was under no obligation to endorse any final deal simply because she had once hoped for a good one. Clinton’s opposition to the TPP is not a flip-flop but a perfectly reasonable stance. In fact, many more Americans may now follow Clinton in concluding, once they see the final details of the TPP, that while they may not be against trade in general, they are certainly against this deal in particular.

The focus on Clinton’s alleged reversal is a dodge to deflect our attention from what really matters, which are the problems with the TPP. The American public has yet to see the final negotiated draft, in spite of insistent calls for more transparency from the Obama administration. But nothing reported so far following the conclusion of the negotiations suggests that critics have been wrong to oppose this deal as a corporate grab-bag masquerading under the banner of “free trade.”

With more time, Clinton could have been even stronger in confronting Cooper’s blunt questions in last night’s debate. She could have gone through her evolving views on trade — not over the last month or year, but over the last decade. She could have noted her disappointment with NAFTA, and her insistence on higher standards for any new trade agreements. She could have explained further how the TPP that was concluded is not what the TPP should have been.

She could have said what John Maynard Keynes famously said when a critic accused him of inconsistency: “When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?” For the real significance of Clinton’s opposition to the TPP is not what it suggests about Clinton. It’s what it suggests about the TPP.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-singh-grewal/why-hillary-clinton-is-ri_b_8295420.html

Lee Atwater Said billhicks76 Jun 2016 #1
. Motown_Johnny Jun 2016 #2
That's from 2012, and she was praising the fair trade & worker protection TPP goals. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #18
It isn't about the primary. Motown_Johnny Jun 2016 #19
It's anti-Hillary propaganda. nt SunSeeker Jun 2016 #20
Then why did the administrators reinstate the post Motown_Johnny Jul 2016 #21
Ask the Admins why it was reinstated. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #35
The message from the administrators was that it did not break the rules. Motown_Johnny Jul 2016 #36
The title of the video is a lie, as I note above. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #39
Her exact words can't be a lie. She said it. Motown_Johnny Jul 2016 #41
The title is not "her exact words." Why did you post the video? SunSeeker Jul 2016 #42
A 45 second video of Hillary speaking is anti-Hillary propaganda? merrily Jul 2016 #27
Reality is no longer acceptable. Motown_Johnny Jul 2016 #33
The title of the video is a lie, as I note above. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #34
No. It is.a.quote. n/t Motown_Johnny Jul 2016 #37
No, the title of the video is a lie. Hillary does not support the TPP. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #38
Her exact quote is... Motown_Johnny Jul 2016 #40
The "this TPP" she was talking about were the TPP goals set out back in 2012. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #43
I posted the video to show her record on trade. Motown_Johnny Jul 2016 #44
No, you falsely presented her as being pro-TPP, by posting a video with a false headline. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #45
The headline is not false Motown_Johnny Jul 2016 #46
The video's headline is false. It implies she supports the TPP. She does not. nt SunSeeker Jul 2016 #47
Her statement was made in the present tense without qualification. Motown_Johnny Jul 2016 #48
It was indeed stated in the present tense, IN 2012. BEFORE the terms we now have were set. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #49
Hillary does not oppose TPP. LS_Editor Jun 2016 #3
plz Cryptoad Jun 2016 #7
If Obama doesn't get it through Congress then Hillary will. Mark my words. LS_Editor Jun 2016 #10
No shortage of seers around these here parts........ Cryptoad Jun 2016 #11
I'm not arrogant enough to believe Americans aren't stupid enough to elect Trump. LS_Editor Jun 2016 #15
Poppy did not get NAFTA through Congress. merrily Jul 2016 #28
13 Democratic senators voted to fast-track tpp: elleng Jun 2016 #4
So, Brexit is a good thing? tirebiter Jun 2016 #5
Only those who BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #12
"Sanders and Clinton are right to oppose the TPP"? Android3.14 Jun 2016 #6
the uninformed? Cryptoad Jun 2016 #8
Or the willfully ignorant. Android3.14 Jun 2016 #16
Globalization is not the problem. Low wages, shitty jobs, & wealth inequality are the problems Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #9
Thanks for lots of good BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #13
Gosh darn it, How do I Rec a post? Sentath Jun 2016 #14
Sounds good to me. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #17
Corporate control of the globalization is the problem seabeckind Jul 2016 #22
As I said (in title), wealth inequality is one of the roots. You agree when you ref "oligopoly". nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #23
No, I don't agree. seabeckind Jul 2016 #24
An un-wealthy oligopoly is toothless. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #25
False equivalency. seabeckind Jul 2016 #26
Non-equivalency. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #30
+1 Trying to maximize profits for stockholders is a legal corporate duty. merrily Jul 2016 #29
Yes it is. seabeckind Jul 2016 #31
I know what you are saying, but both CAN exist with proper regulation. merrily Jul 2016 #32
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