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In reply to the discussion: Berkeley Students Call On University To Cancel Speech By ‘Bigot and Racist’ Bill Maher [View all]applegrove
(118,778 posts)148. Fareed Zakaria: "Muslims Are Right To Complain That There Is Anti-Muslim Bigotry"
Fareed Zakaria: "Muslims Are Right To Complain That There Is Anti-Muslim Bigotry"
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/10/27/fareed_zakaria_muslims_are_right_to_complain_that_there_is_anti-muslim_bigotry.html
"SNIP....................
(the two Canadian jihadists and the one in new York this week) These are not people steeped in Islam, people for whom the religion shaped their world view over decades. People who were motivated by their immersion in the religion. On the contrary, these were unstable young men prone to radicalism and violence. They were searching for an ideology that would fit their disturbed world view, and in the radical and jihadi interpretations of Islam, they found it.
It's always worth remembering that these people represent a tiny minority. Think of it this way. Terror groups like ISIS and al Qaeda have been calling on Muslims to engage in terrorism in Western cities for over 10 years now. Of 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide, the number who have responded to these calls is a small, small, small percentage. If all Muslims were radicals, we would have more than three to worry about this week.
And yet, there is a problem within Islam. It's not enough for Muslims to point out that these people do not represent the religion. They don't. But Muslims need to take more active measures to protest these heinous acts. They also need to make sure that Muslim countries and societies do not in any way condone extremism, anti-modern attitudes, and intolerance towards other faiths.
Muslims are right to complain that there is anti-Muslim bigotry out there, but they would have a more persuasive case if they took on some of the bigotry within the world of Islam as well.
.......................SNIP"
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/10/27/fareed_zakaria_muslims_are_right_to_complain_that_there_is_anti-muslim_bigotry.html
"SNIP....................
(the two Canadian jihadists and the one in new York this week) These are not people steeped in Islam, people for whom the religion shaped their world view over decades. People who were motivated by their immersion in the religion. On the contrary, these were unstable young men prone to radicalism and violence. They were searching for an ideology that would fit their disturbed world view, and in the radical and jihadi interpretations of Islam, they found it.
It's always worth remembering that these people represent a tiny minority. Think of it this way. Terror groups like ISIS and al Qaeda have been calling on Muslims to engage in terrorism in Western cities for over 10 years now. Of 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide, the number who have responded to these calls is a small, small, small percentage. If all Muslims were radicals, we would have more than three to worry about this week.
And yet, there is a problem within Islam. It's not enough for Muslims to point out that these people do not represent the religion. They don't. But Muslims need to take more active measures to protest these heinous acts. They also need to make sure that Muslim countries and societies do not in any way condone extremism, anti-modern attitudes, and intolerance towards other faiths.
Muslims are right to complain that there is anti-Muslim bigotry out there, but they would have a more persuasive case if they took on some of the bigotry within the world of Islam as well.
.......................SNIP"
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Berkeley Students Call On University To Cancel Speech By ‘Bigot and Racist’ Bill Maher [View all]
big_dog
Oct 2014
OP
But that is ALSO YOUR opinion....and you know what they say about those...
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2014
#127
and are you trying to claim that Joan River and Don Rickles weren't funny????
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2014
#144
Well, he makes million$ making people laugh. I like the guy and I think he is right on when it come
demosincebirth
Oct 2014
#181
I hope so. That doesn't sound like Maher since he believes the overuse of antibiotics which cause
still_one
Oct 2014
#176
YOUR opinion...millions of others seem to disagree....and there is no shortage of wannabees!
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2014
#107
My college actually allows the students to vote for the commencent speaker out of a list created by
adirondacker
Oct 2014
#238
I wrote them a letter that they should stop wasting their time asking me for donations
BrotherIvan
Oct 2014
#69
I don't remember which CA university did it but one had Sarah Palin come to speak.
freshwest
Oct 2014
#212
This guy only needs to send a letter saying he'll shoot everybody if the event takes place... No?
Helen Borg
Oct 2014
#8
It is ironic for you to suggest that Bill would be with those railing against 'the gays' when it
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2014
#76
What better way to celebrate the history of the Free Speech Movement which began at Berkeley...
Dr. Strange
Oct 2014
#18
And although he usually rails against our government spending huge sums on war,
truedelphi
Oct 2014
#123
I take it they're done celebrating the Free Speech Movement's 50th anniversary.
name not needed
Oct 2014
#19
About 36,000 people attend that school. There are 1,500 signatures, the number which are
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2014
#90
CANCEL HIM. And replace him with somebody to give a speech about how puppies are cute.
Nye Bevan
Oct 2014
#22
They are protesting now, when it makes more sense so to do. Vigorous debates at commencement?
merrily
Oct 2014
#110
That's your opinion. Cal is a public institution. It doesn't have to tolerate hate speech,
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#101
Cal can invite who it will. The commencement speaker at my daughter's graduation was someone I woul
JDPriestly
Oct 2014
#119
A commencement speech is different from a ban. And it's not a free school. It's their tuition that
merrily
Oct 2014
#117
You seem unaware of his one size fits all approach to Islam? He is a bigot. No doubt. And it is
Fred Sanders
Oct 2014
#36
All some folks see is what they want to see, a moloithic religion they do not want to understand.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2014
#103
THIS should be an OP, if you dare...The Uninformed will pillar you....ignorance at DU is aplenty.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2014
#223
Except they are not adherents to their religion as Westbotro Church is not to theirs. A matter of
Fred Sanders
Oct 2014
#222
I am truly sorry you feel that way, 1.8 billion Muslim souls you see as evil, inhuman enemies.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2014
#226
Yes, they would. As long as we're making up stuff, what you make up is not more truthy than what I
merrily
Oct 2014
#118
The premise: it's wrong to hit a woman except as a last resort when your life is in danger from her
arcane1
Oct 2014
#231
So thinking is taboo in today's knee-jerk-response-in-5-seconds society huh? nt
alp227
Oct 2014
#236
No, but explaining lame jokes is a waste of time to those who want to be offended.
arcane1
Oct 2014
#237
But consider this: The commencement is about their years of commitment and hard work to graduate.
freshwest
Oct 2014
#215
Wasn't the free speech movement about the university banning ALL political activity of students
merrily
Oct 2014
#93
Does the religion require that? We've know kids have been molested by clergy, but that is not
merrily
Oct 2014
#125
Not wanting your tuition used to pay someone you believe is a racist is not silencing anyone. Maher
merrily
Oct 2014
#108
Tuition and taxes are not the same thing. Neither is your nation's government and a college. And
merrily
Oct 2014
#135
I agree. His comedy seems off the last few weeks, maybe all the backlash for his repeated
Fred Sanders
Oct 2014
#37
Criticize them then...don't demonize EVERY religious follower for the sins of the bigots. nt
alp227
Oct 2014
#177
None of those quotes are "demonize EVERY religious follower for the sins of the bigots"
LostOne4Ever
Oct 2014
#199
"but it's not racist! I sound like Nick Griffin on Muslims regardless of race!"
MisterP
Oct 2014
#66
Sadly, Maher has a point. I signed a petition today urging Pakistan to spare a Christian woman from
catbyte
Oct 2014
#81
What do Muslims in the US, Indonesia, the Philippines, England, etc. have to do with her sentence?
merrily
Oct 2014
#122
The Old Testament is heinous in places, too. Wiping out enemies, even to the point
merrily
Oct 2014
#134
It's impossible to point to "The Leader of the Muslims" because it is a cellular religion.
MADem
Oct 2014
#206
Pretending all 1.8 billion Muslims are violent at the drop of a hat is not 100% correct.
merrily
Oct 2014
#136
Good thing Maher and Harris SPECIFICALLY said not all muslims on that show
LostOne4Ever
Oct 2014
#159
I watched the video on an earlier thread. The thrust was that it was, at a minimum, most Muslims.
merrily
Oct 2014
#161
And your bullshit claim is that I said something about him because he is an atheist, not because of
merrily
Oct 2014
#171
I don't think I care for Bill Maher as a person, but I do think he is politically
rhett o rick
Oct 2014
#142
Fareed Zakaria: "Muslims Are Right To Complain That There Is Anti-Muslim Bigotry"
applegrove
Oct 2014
#148
Blind supporters of the Palestinians on the left are just as bad (doctrinaire), as blind supporters
Monk06
Oct 2014
#153
Most likely they both are semites, however, Judism has come to represent both a race and a religion
still_one
Oct 2014
#183
The word Semite as well as Aryan are terms invented in the eighteenth century to
Monk06
Oct 2014
#191
It is kind of both, however, there are genetic markers which can identify an Ashkenazi Jewish
still_one
Oct 2014
#220
C'mon, maybe he'll invite his extra special guest and friend Ann Coulter to really rock the house!
adirondacker
Oct 2014
#240
I like Maher. All performers are full of themselves. That's how they can be performers. Duh.
valerief
Oct 2014
#186
These students are exercising their Constitutional rights. I have no problem with that.
nomorenomore08
Oct 2014
#192
Was looking forward to seeing big_dog's opinions throughout this thread
alcibiades_mystery
Oct 2014
#194
The thing that gets stuck in my teeth is that it isn't just Bill Maher
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Oct 2014
#198
So if they were objecting to an anti-semitic speaker, would you still call them "fucking idiots"?
CrawlingChaos
Oct 2014
#213
Bill Maher is "anti-semitic" if you want to come down to it. He doesn't like ANY religions.
MADem
Oct 2014
#216
Perhaps they'd feel more comfortable hearing from the editors of Jyllands-Posten or Salman Rushdie?
Heywood J
Oct 2014
#221
Shameful, seeing radical right-wing students at Cal trying to impose their fanatical beliefs
True Blue Door
Oct 2014
#242