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(13,184 posts) Wed Jul 16, 2014, 01:15 PM Jul 2014

Israel Naval Ship 'Bombs Palestinian Children on Gaza Beach,' Killing Four [View all]

Source: The Telegraph (UK)

Four children were killed in Gaza City on Wednesday, medics said, in Israeli shelling witnessed by The Telegraph and other foreign journalists.

The four were among a group on the beach when the attack took place, emergency services spokesman Ashraf al-Qudra said, with some of the surviving injured children taking refuge at a nearby hotel where journalists were staying.

Journalists heard two loud explosions outside the Gaza City hotel, before children were pulled into the restaurant area for treatment.

A journalist who saw the incident said some of the children who survived were running away when another shell seemed to be aimed at them.

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10971306/Israeli-naval-ship-bombs-Palestinian-children-on-Gaza-beach-killing-four.html

The IDF once again proves it is very effective at killing Palestinian civilians.

The reports are that about 70% of the dead are civilians, including dozens of children.

Your tax dollars at work.

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Israel Naval Ship 'Bombs Palestinian Children on Gaza Beach,' Killing Four [View all] Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 OP

Probably the other 30% are simply adult males Ash_F Jul 2014 #1

I've been told again and again that Israel is exercising admirable restraint Orrex Jul 2014 #2

Hard to answer without violating ballyhoo Jul 2014 #3

The world has ignored the slaughter in Syria for years hack89 Jul 2014 #5

Syria has been extensively sanctioned Ash_F Jul 2014 #8

For some reason, not clear even to me, I ballyhoo Jul 2014 #10

Syria has been admonished and sanctioned by the US and EU. Ash_F Jul 2014 #15

Yes, sir. Death of little children is much more important ballyhoo Jul 2014 #17

So you want a war with both Israel and Syria? Ash_F Jul 2014 #26

My comment was well thought out deep beliefs. I ballyhoo Jul 2014 #31

I think you would be surprised at the effects international pressure can have on Israeli policy. Ash_F Jul 2014 #34

Not at all. I have purposely stayed away from ballyhoo Jul 2014 #40

I wonder how many Israeli children have died from rocket's being lobbed at them? nt William769 Jul 2014 #4

Give Hamas what they want and you will get your wish of a more "fair" fight. nt hack89 Jul 2014 #6

according to B'tselem since 9/2000-5/31/14 azurnoir Jul 2014 #11

127 Israeli minors have died & the Iron dome knocks out 87% of Hamas missiles. Sunlei Jul 2014 #50

if you look at the stats you'll find azurnoir Jul 2014 #52

yes, I understand Sunlei Jul 2014 #54

the greastest portion of those were during Intifada2 azurnoir Jul 2014 #58

guess they're lucky russia, china, iran? doesn't sell hamas the targeting software. Sunlei Jul 2014 #59

Over a ten to one ratio... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #81

so now that you know, William reddread Jul 2014 #18

Stop the rockets and agree to the cease fire then all is good to sit and figure this out. William769 Jul 2014 #21

11 to 1 death ratio reddread Jul 2014 #22

They had a chance at a cease fire. William769 Jul 2014 #23

Exactly opposite in this case. ballyhoo Jul 2014 #24

seems like clearly flawed reasoning. do you think they are crazy? reddread Jul 2014 #25

Your numbers are meaningless. William769 Jul 2014 #28

1 to 11, 11 to 1 reddread Jul 2014 #30

are you opining that the Hamas refusal of a cease fire gives Israel carte blanche? azurnoir Jul 2014 #66

no need to participate in a discussion on a discussion board? reddread Jul 2014 #75

Ah, the voice of peaceful (single-issue) opinion ... Nihil Jul 2014 #93

Only those who have been defending a small plot ballyhoo Jul 2014 #29

That is true. None of us can know the level of hopelessness and desperation Chemisse Jul 2014 #91

You mean those like the Palestinians? FarrenH Jul 2014 #97

Yes ballyhoo Jul 2014 #99

you do realize it was announced that Hamas had rejected the cease fire azurnoir Jul 2014 #37

None. The Stranger Jul 2014 #56

None. DeSwiss Jul 2014 #87

No. They were just "knocking on the roof" of a sandcastle alcibiades_mystery Jul 2014 #7

how many missiles did Rachel Corrie fire at them? How many did these journalists fire at them? reddread Jul 2014 #9

The terror org Hamas is wholly responsible for those deaths, IronGate Jul 2014 #12

Negative. Had they accepted the cease fire they would ballyhoo Jul 2014 #14

Are you saying that those 4 people would have been killed even if the terror org Hamas IronGate Jul 2014 #16

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #19

"So called"? ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2014 #43

Ha! Levin loves to hear the sound of his own voice. To me, he's worse than rush 7962 Jul 2014 #83

Quite possibly... I am saying the position of ballyhoo Jul 2014 #20

If you killed my kids on the beach..... ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2014 #46

It's not hard to understand such a response. Maedhros Jul 2014 #74

Hamas, a group fueld by Israel to counter Arafat's PA Larkspur Jul 2014 #73

Time for the U.S. to exit this hell hole...... Swede Atlanta Jul 2014 #13

there is no cause and effect link between hamas rockets and israelis murdering kids on a beach nt msongs Jul 2014 #27

nothing rational anyway n/t reddread Jul 2014 #32

Another good point. ballyhoo Jul 2014 #33

The Russians searching a diversion for their crimes in Chechenia and Ukraine fireflysky46 Jul 2014 #35

Speaking of diversions... Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #38

Hamas head to make diplomatic trip to Moscow fireflysky46 Jul 2014 #41

hate much? reddread Jul 2014 #70

+1 reddread Jul 2014 #69

Its horrible when anyone is killed. Israel had 200 target strikes today Sunlei Jul 2014 #36

The Iron Dome? ....... ballyhoo Jul 2014 #45

It works, I have friends who live there. Sunlei Jul 2014 #51

I have relatives who live there. It ballyhoo Jul 2014 #53

The root cause of this conflict must be resolved or Israel and Palestine will never know peace. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #39

Hamas head to make diplomatic trip to Moscow http://toi.sr/T5QUma via @timesofisrael fireflysky46 Jul 2014 #42

Who can blame them? I would do the same thing. arcane1 Jul 2014 #55

But for sure now the Palestinians are manipulate for fireflysky46 Jul 2014 #61

You don't know that. What if Putin sends ballyhoo Jul 2014 #63

For sure He does, and he does also for the Hamas fireflysky46 Jul 2014 #64

He puts fear in Israel, who then goes to the ballyhoo Jul 2014 #65

NO, you don't got it, this have nothing to do with Obama, who his one fireflysky46 Jul 2014 #67

You mean "Katrina"? ballyhoo Jul 2014 #68

where else are they going to turn, Washington? nt geek tragedy Jul 2014 #60

I've said this elsewhere, will repeat here: Israelis will succeed closeupready Jul 2014 #44

No, they won't-- Just as Iraq was the US's Parthia, ballyhoo Jul 2014 #47

We'll see. Either way, I think we agree, Palestinians will forget closeupready Jul 2014 #48

Ah, I understand now...Not the Twilight Zone... ballyhoo Jul 2014 #49

Yes. I thought that was irony Ghost Dog Jul 2014 #62

They did? another_liberal Jul 2014 #72

Of course not. That's my (obtuse) point - they will not forget. closeupready Jul 2014 #76

Exactly spot on. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #78

I'm glad someone thinks that is possible. n/t amandabeech Jul 2014 #86

4 Palestinian kids died today.... Xolodno Jul 2014 #57

The Guardian has this story as well. another_liberal Jul 2014 #71

pretty sure thats called war crimes reddread Jul 2014 #77

Is intentionally targeting and killing fleeing civilians a war crime? another_liberal Jul 2014 #79

I don't think Israel is under The Hague either. yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #80

doesnt change much reddread Jul 2014 #82

Israel is not the United States . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #84

Warrants against American leaders have kept them from travelling to some developed countries FarrenH Jul 2014 #98

Is that not what Hamas does? tjl148 Jul 2014 #89

Are you saying Israel is justified . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #92

No, tjl148 Jul 2014 #94

You do realize, don't you . . . another_liberal Jul 2014 #95

And... tjl148 Jul 2014 #96

This is just so sad. Those poor children. smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #85

K&R DeSwiss Jul 2014 #88

Israeli terrorists blow up four kids Ichingcarpenter Jul 2014 #90