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In reply to the discussion: Killer's family tried to intervene before rampage [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)20. 400 rounds is a bit much for someone planning peaceful activities. But it's common place. No wonder
Last edited Mon May 26, 2014, 02:53 PM - Edit history (1)
some places can rapidly become a war zone. This state of affairs is what the Koch brothers, Birchers and NRA intend by fighting sensible legislation. It's not just about profits, there's more to it.2nd Amendment absolutists and their running buddies the Second Amendment Solution crowd will drape it in all kinds of causes, but are now emboldened to give their real motive. They want the government overthrown.
The NRA, et al, have long had such a radical agenda that even Bush, Sr. objected to it. Some forget what is legal now, was not legal twenty years ago. Now it's batshit crazy and we're all going to pay the price. Here's what Bush said:
Letter of Resignation Sent By Bush to Rifle Association
Published: May 11, 1995
Following is the letter of resignation sent last week by former President George Bush to the National Rifle Association:
May 3, 1995
Dear Mr. Washington,
I was outraged when, even in the wake of the Oklahoma City tragedy, Mr. Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of N.R.A., defended his attack on federal agents as "jack-booted thugs." To attack Secret Service agents or A.T.F. people or any government law enforcement people as "wearing Nazi bucket helmets and black storm trooper uniforms" wanting to "attack law abiding citizens" is a vicious slander on good people.
Al Whicher, who served on my [ United States Secret Service ] detail when I was Vice President and President, was killed in Oklahoma City. He was no Nazi. He was a kind man, a loving parent, a man dedicated to serving his country -- and serve it well he did.
In 1993, I attended the wake for A.T.F. agent Steve Willis, another dedicated officer who did his duty. I can assure you that this honorable man, killed by weird cultists, was no Nazi.
John Magaw, who used to head the U.S.S.S. and now heads A.T.F., is one of the most principled, decent men I have ever known. He would be the last to condone the kind of illegal behavior your ugly letter charges. The same is true for the F.B.I.'s able Director Louis Freeh. I appointed Mr. Freeh to the Federal Bench. His integrity and honor are beyond question.
Both John Magaw and Judge Freeh were in office when I was President. They both now serve in the current administration. They both have badges. Neither of them would ever give the government's "go ahead to harass, intimidate, even murder law abiding citizens." (Your words)
I am a gun owner and an avid hunter. Over the years I have agreed with most of N.R.A.'s objectives, particularly your educational and training efforts, and your fundamental stance in favor of owning guns.
However, your broadside against Federal agents deeply offends my own sense of decency and honor; and it offends my concept of service to country. It indirectly slanders a wide array of government law enforcement officials, who are out there, day and night, laying their lives on the line for all of us.
You have not repudiated Mr. LaPierre's unwarranted attack. Therefore, I resign as a Life Member of N.R.A., said resignation to be effective upon your receipt of this letter. Please remove my name from your membership list.
Sincerely, [ signed ] George Bush
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/05/11/us/letter-of-resignation-sent-by-bush-to-rifle-association.html
I have no love for any Bush, but he saw the writing on the wall. Their talking points are now mainstream, not because they are right, but because they own the media and have brainwashed millions.
When the NRA's power in this country was called out by the father of a victim over this latest event, the GOP made crude remarks to defame any opposition. The NRA, ALEC and the Koch brothers are too powerful and their agenda does not bode well for Americans.... It's sick.
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400 rounds is a bit much for someone planning peaceful activities. But it's common place. No wonder
freshwest
May 2014
#20
I do too. Adding the knives, sharp objects, used to kill the roommates was just a part of how
Tikki
May 2014
#15
According to his "Manifesto", bought them, one at a time, with money given to him...
PassingFair
May 2014
#19
Oh, yes. Being short is an excuse for needing a stepladder to reach the top shelf in your
JDPriestly
May 2014
#30
Like Seung-Hui Cho and Adam Lanza, Elliot Rodger was mentally ill with access to weaponry
Algernon Moncrieff
May 2014
#11
His first threatening words should have been acted on long before his rampage
seveneyes
May 2014
#25