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27. No, we only want to deny speech to pieces of paper. Go back to making more paper dollies, you idjit!

Fri May 23, 2014, 06:02 PM

May 2014

Carnival Cruz believes that money is speech. The more money you have, the more you get to speak. If you don't have money, STFU, right?

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Ted Cruz Warns That Dems Are Moving To 'Repeal' The First Amendment [View all] DonViejo May 2014 OP

Wow. He really knows how stupid his audience is. I'll give him that. n/t Gore1FL May 2014 #1

A Harvard law grad able to dumb himself down to the level of the idiots is a gift. Fred Sanders May 2014 #9

I don't think he is that far removed from them Skittles May 2014 #73

Stupid fuck speaks to more stupid fucks... SoapBox May 2014 #2

And every one of them has a vote just like you. Kablooie May 2014 #58

DUzy!! freshwest Jul 2014 #84

Why would any of them give a shit? Aristus May 2014 #3

Well, he's not wrong. Hosnon May 2014 #4

"minimal curtailment of the right to free speech" huh? leftyohiolib May 2014 #7

I'm sure it's okay as long as it's for the greater good. (nt) blueridge3210 May 2014 #8

No matter what this SC says... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #12

Yeah, as soon as you concede that money = speech, you've lost the argument Distant Quasar May 2014 #18

So if the government forbid DU from spending money to maintain the site onenote May 2014 #26

No, of course not Distant Quasar May 2014 #34

Money is speech. Nye Bevan May 2014 #33

Money as speech Mz Pip May 2014 #39

I agree. I have no problem with full disclosure being required. Nye Bevan May 2014 #52

So if I hand my congressman a big bag of money Distant Quasar May 2014 #43

Again, all too simplistic salib May 2014 #44

Should it be possible to ban a book from being published during election season Nye Bevan May 2014 #51

The corollary to your statement is that people with money should have more influence in govt. baldguy May 2014 #78

That has always been the case. Nye Bevan May 2014 #79

That may have been the case, but it certainly hasn't been the ideal or the objective. baldguy May 2014 #80

Saying "money is speech" effectively renders you and I mute Arkana May 2014 #82

Well, lots of people have no money. Nye Bevan May 2014 #83

Well, no matter what you say, current jurisprudence is that money equals speech. Hosnon May 2014 #19

Unfortunately, a constitutional amendment is not going to happen Distant Quasar May 2014 #29

I agree that it is a high hurdle, but not insurmountable. Hosnon May 2014 #32

It's a type of public financing that enhances the influence of small donors Distant Quasar May 2014 #50

It isn't all that high. Half-Century Man May 2014 #54

you don't want a constitutional convention sabbat hunter May 2014 #63

That's always going to be the case lordsummerisle May 2014 #67

correct sabbat hunter May 2014 #75

And? Half-Century Man May 2014 #69

NOT when SCOTUS is stacked with ultra conservative judges 5 to 4. Of course not. YOHABLO May 2014 #61

Yeah, I get what you are saying... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #36

Free speech is curtailed all the time. Hosnon May 2014 #16

that reminds me of this leftyohiolib May 2014 #20

The drafters of the amendment, and then the federal judiciary. nt. Hosnon May 2014 #21

well who would that be? leftyohiolib May 2014 #23

Presumably Sen. Tom Udall and anyone else involved with drafting it. Hosnon May 2014 #24

If $=Speech than Speech is not Free. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #49

As everybody knows, they've Turbineguy May 2014 #5

The teabanger audience gasped? Fred Sanders May 2014 #6

Okay, Chuck .. 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #10

The hallmark of conservatism is dishonesty. Kingofalldems May 2014 #11

Dems warn that Ted Cruz is moving to "repel" human dignity. olddad56 May 2014 #13

Ted Cruz is truly an ugly man. asjr May 2014 #14

FROM the inside out... yuiyoshida May 2014 #25

They discovered my secret plan! shenmue May 2014 #15

You cannot discuss this with the right wingers...... Swede Atlanta May 2014 #17

That should be an OP! Please! freshwest Jul 2014 #85

That is hilarious - as the 2nd amendment has always been the interest of the conservatives - the jwirr May 2014 #22

No, we only want to deny speech to pieces of paper. Go back to making more paper dollies, you idjit! freshwest May 2014 #27

I think he should be arrested for saying something that stupid DJ13 May 2014 #28

How can he play people like that? EC May 2014 #30

this is the same level of ignorance as the person who told me that michelle obama passed a law niyad May 2014 #46

The gun lobby has been getting away with that strategy for years Blue_Tires May 2014 #71

The technique: say the biggest lie that strikes the biggest fear in your audience. Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #31

+1 freshwest Jul 2014 #86

In other news: Ted Cruz is a certifiable lunatic Bettie May 2014 #35

Projection. Always projection with the G O Pee. blkmusclmachine May 2014 #37

he is a very special kind of ignorant! NRaleighLiberal May 2014 #38

I understand Cruz is King of at least 3 mountains or something. Kingofalldems May 2014 #40

I've come to the conclusion that whenever the GOP speaks Iliyah May 2014 #41

Doesn't matter... TRoN33 May 2014 #42

He's making this up. Enthusiast May 2014 #45

Cruz gives a whole new meaning to the term "Full of shit". appleannie1 May 2014 #47

Dangerous man right there. He would have rocked as Nazi propaganda minister. EEO May 2014 #48

Yes that is exactly what he is. And the gullible will kill for him if he tells them they should... freshwest Jul 2014 #87

It's a dirty trick to equate campaign spending with 1st Amendment rights. livingonearth May 2014 #53

Te-mer-i-ty WOW 4 syllables! benld74 May 2014 #55

he's a demagogue barbtries May 2014 #56

I'd say the Koch brothers, but I think it's really the other way around. Just sayin' freshwest Jul 2014 #89

"If you're saying things that... charlives May 2014 #57

People like Cruz are dangerous because PumpkinAle May 2014 #59

That man is an idiot. nt TeamPooka May 2014 #60

What the Dems ought really do is Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2014 #62

Why do Republican idiots think Free Speech is a one-way street LynneSin May 2014 #64

Bat. Shit. Crazy. n/t ColesCountyDem May 2014 #65

Soon as Obama wins his third term, he plans to repeal the First and Second Amenements. NBachers May 2014 #66

Comrade, I've already voted for it! Did you get your double secret ballot yet? freshwest Jul 2014 #90

Reinstating meaningful campaign finance laws shouldn't be approached by tinkering struggle4progress May 2014 #68

+1 to the OP and everyone in the thread davidpdx May 2014 #70

Ted Cruz believes the Republicans OWn the First Amendment copperearth May 2014 #72

If money is speech, we SHOULD repeal the 1st amendment XiaomuWave May 2014 #74

False. Proponents at Move to Amend want to eliminate corporate personhood, not the First. freshwest Jul 2014 #88

Congress can't do this shit Ted Zambero May 2014 #76

I am often torn as to whether I should... 3catwoman3 May 2014 #77

Also, there are tiny people in his salt shakers. Orsino May 2014 #81