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steve2470

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108. "put on hold all military-to-military engagements between the United States and Russia"
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:46 PM
Mar 2014

Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Admiral John Kirby just released this Department of Defense statement on the situation in Ukraine:

Although the Department of Defense finds value in the military-to-military relationship with the Russian Federation we have developed over the past few years to increase transparency, build understanding, and reduce the risk of military miscalculation we have, in light of recent events in Ukraine, put on hold all military-to-military engagements between the United States and Russia. This includes exercises, bilateral meetings, port visits and planning conferences.


The Defense Department is closely monitoring the situation and remains in close contact with the State Department and interagency, along with our Allies, Partners and NATO. We call on Russia to deescalate the crisis in Ukraine and for Russian forces in Crimea to return to their bases, as required under the agreements governing the Russia Black Sea Fleet.


Some media outlets are speculating on possible ship movements in the region. There has been no change to our military posture in Europe or the Mediterranean; our Navy units continue to conduct routine, previously planned operations and exercises with allies and partners in the region.


http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/3/2/live-blog-crisisinukraine.html
This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 Mar 2014 #1
confirmation steve2470 Mar 2014 #2
(Corrected to >>>) So, that would be 10:00PM EST 3/3. RKP5637 Mar 2014 #9
10pm (on the 3rd), not am (nt) muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #13
Oops, just corrected it! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #15
So not yet. Not even 10 AM PT. Bet the phone lines are busy between DC and Moscow. nt freshwest Mar 2014 #43
15.55 CBS journalist Erin Lyall has seen officers' wives at a Ukrainian base making a human shield steve2470 Mar 2014 #3
Just saw it flash by on Al Jazeera America. Putin is testing the waters, this, IMO, is RKP5637 Mar 2014 #4
This is a repeating theme in Russian history. Maedhros Mar 2014 #66
Do you think that the Baltic states, with their Russian populations, amandabeech Mar 2014 #73
Russia already has access to the Baltic Sea via St. Petersburg. Maedhros Mar 2014 #78
St. Petersburg is not nearly as good a port as Riga, Latvia. amandabeech Mar 2014 #80
Less incentive, not zero. [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2014 #81
I agree, but Putin seems to be living in the past as much as the present. amandabeech Mar 2014 #82
Putin could certainly have his eyes on the Baltic States. Maedhros Mar 2014 #85
"The revolution in the Ukraine threatened Russian access to the Black Sea"-Not EX500rider Mar 2014 #92
Not excusing the action, just analyzing it. [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2014 #93
Wasn't at you... EX500rider Mar 2014 #97
Medvedev and Biden talk, via Interfax steve2470 Mar 2014 #5
no confirmation from Moscow steve2470 Mar 2014 #6
Source was Ukrainian Defence Ministry dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #7
yes steve2470 Mar 2014 #10
Becomes hard to know who to believe dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #12
Ukraine is drumming up support for its government pre-emptively, or panicking. Maybe just PR. freshwest Mar 2014 #46
I still wonder dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #57
I don't think they are accepting economic realities, either, and were not prepared to govern yet. freshwest Mar 2014 #110
EU / Euro as follows dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #111
But Ireland, Italy, Spain, Portugal, France, etc. are on the Euro? freshwest Mar 2014 #115
Germany dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #117
I was thinking the same way about their claim to protect Russians in the Ukraine davidpdx Mar 2014 #113
He is a crazy bastard isn't he? davidpdx Mar 2014 #112
Nope, he's paid for that act. Some toadies play their roles better than others. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #116
Alamo time Renew Deal Mar 2014 #8
and so the thug that fancies itself a bear shows himself geek tragedy Mar 2014 #11
cost to Russia steve2470 Mar 2014 #14
Yes, that's cause to doubt this 'ultimatum' was ever issued. I'm just speculating, though. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #50
"ruble won't collapse" steve2470 Mar 2014 #16
Shouldn't that be the rubble? OnlinePoker Mar 2014 #31
+1, How to wreck a country in a few easy steps. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #35
Khodorkovsky statement steve2470 Mar 2014 #17
Ukraine so far refusing to make the same mistake Georgia did in firing first-- TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #18
How could anyone still think this is in any way justifiable behavior on Russia's part? nt Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #19
how could anyone think it was justifiable for the US to illegally invade Iraq. olddad56 Mar 2014 #21
There is none. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #23
There is none, indeed, for Iraq or Crimea. Putin is acting like Bush not someone we supported. n/t pampango Mar 2014 #30
Exactly davidpdx Mar 2014 #114
@Tommy_Carcetti: +100 levp Mar 2014 #33
Exactly.. and it wasn't done in our name, either. Not mine.. and I'm Cha Mar 2014 #118
"What is the difference?" EX500rider Mar 2014 #94
live blog here, do not know credibility, feedback please steve2470 Mar 2014 #20
CBS report steve2470 Mar 2014 #22
Hopefully she knows what she's talking about. This is manuevering for support by Ukraine, likely. nt freshwest Mar 2014 #51
"no need" - speaker of State Duma steve2470 Mar 2014 #24
BBC News on tv now reporting dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #25
"Russia may kill some their own troops" steve2470 Mar 2014 #26
Weren't there German bodies in Polish uniforms at the German/Polish amandabeech Mar 2014 #75
you are correct nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #76
On what legal basis is that deadline made? blackspade Mar 2014 #27
Legality christx30 Mar 2014 #48
Sorry, I was being rhetorical blackspade Mar 2014 #68
RT reports 400 kilos of TNT and arms steve2470 Mar 2014 #28
Some loose nuts trying to start a war, then? n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #54
Russia requesting UN Security council meeting steve2470 Mar 2014 #29
That's the right thing to do. May cooler heads prevail. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #87
all i can say is shit. barbtries Mar 2014 #32
Russian defense ministry is now denying that there is an ultimatum for surrender. pampango Mar 2014 #34
It was Ukraine who made the claim dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #37
Ultimatum was probably never made. rdharma Mar 2014 #39
Important fine print. jsr Mar 2014 #52
Let's hope the tranfer is without casualties. rdharma Mar 2014 #36
I don't see much details about this levp Mar 2014 #42
confirmation here ? steve2470 Mar 2014 #38
Christopher Miller again steve2470 Mar 2014 #40
That was in reference to one of two issues. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #47
that's not my reading steve2470 Mar 2014 #53
There were two apparent ultimatums today dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #55
Ok I wasn't aware there were two ultimatums steve2470 Mar 2014 #56
is this the ground forces one ? steve2470 Mar 2014 #58
Yes - that is an update from an hour ago which hasn't been updated. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #61
occupation of Donetsk building steve2470 Mar 2014 #41
Polish FM steve2470 Mar 2014 #44
The Ukraine is weak Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #45
Putin has gone mad! hrmjustin Mar 2014 #49
Russia says NOT SO. grasswire Mar 2014 #59
No - because the original head was used as per LBN rules. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #62
Russian troops at Chongar steve2470 Mar 2014 #60
EU foreign ministers condemn clear violation of Ukraine sovereignty steve2470 Mar 2014 #63
strongly condemn - one up from “Irritated” or even “A Bit Cross.” dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #64
are you minimizing this to defend the Russians again? CreekDog Mar 2014 #79
It was yout own posts which persisted in drawing attention to that. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #84
what an interesting way to put it CreekDog Mar 2014 #86
The EU arranged that meeting for today on Saturday dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #67
Pro-Russian troops control ferry terminal steve2470 Mar 2014 #65
Pro-Russian protests outside Crimea steve2470 Mar 2014 #69
situation in Odessa and Donetsk steve2470 Mar 2014 #70
Doesn't matter which side they're on, the sad eyes and faces of those young men break my heart. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #99
Stuart Webb of ITN Channel 4 news with Ukraine commander steve2470 Mar 2014 #71
more from Webb steve2470 Mar 2014 #72
Live Coverage: Russia builds up armor near Crimea steve2470 Mar 2014 #74
NATO Secretary-General Rasmussen announced a meeting of NATO steve2470 Mar 2014 #77
Armed men seize Ukrainian border checkpoint steve2470 Mar 2014 #83
'Am I a terrorist? Are we causing a threat to the Black Sea fleet?' steve2470 Mar 2014 #88
letter from Viktor Yanukovich steve2470 Mar 2014 #89
"without basis in reality." steve2470 Mar 2014 #90
Does she say that when Israel enters Lebanese airspace ? dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #96
Thanks for your many posts and links on this thread. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #100
my pleasure ! nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #101
This is really horrible. /nt Ash_F Mar 2014 #91
Quite aside from already having been dismissed dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #95
Not sure this has shown up here or not: christx30 Mar 2014 #98
LIVE UN Security Council proceedings here steve2470 Mar 2014 #102
UN Security Council meeting is now over steve2470 Mar 2014 #103
PBO meeting at WH with Rice, Lew, General Dempsey, Hagel and Kerry steve2470 Mar 2014 #104
letter from Ukraine to UN detailing Russian military deployment steve2470 Mar 2014 #105
2 hours, 26 minutes to go n/t GP6971 Mar 2014 #106
We Will All Go Together When We Go. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #107
"put on hold all military-to-military engagements between the United States and Russia" steve2470 Mar 2014 #108
Ukraine: Truckloads of Russian troops arrive in Crimea by ferry steve2470 Mar 2014 #109
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