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caraher

(6,279 posts)
21. Slightly yes, mostly no
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 02:34 PM
Oct 2013

On one hand, in some sense that area is already evacuated "forever" in that it will not be fully usable for productive purposes again during the lifetime of anyone around today. And that's if nothing more goes wrong.

But the "off the scale" radiation levels aren't remotely large enough to have a measureable effect on the structural integrity of engineering materials like steel and concrete. The precariousness of the structures derives entirely from earthquake and flood damage. Levels of exposure that are bad for the health of humans - which is what most monitoring instruments are concerned with - won't make materials brittle.

The problem is not that ongoing radiation is weakening structures - it flat-out is not. The problem is that structures are already compromised, and further damage might result in further releases.

It should be noted that as bad as it may be that there's a lot of potentially dangerous material stored at those reactors, our failure in the US to deal realistically with existing reactor waste means our own spent fuel pools are packed with far more of the stuff per reactor. A big lesson for us is that, regardless of the future of fission in the US, we need to get serious about doing something more intelligent with our waste. For all the opposition it sparked, we'd be far better off with the waste in Yucca Mountain than distributed at reactor sites across the country. We're currently doing pretty much the stupidest thing imaginable short of, say, dumping it all into the nearest river.

And... Typhoon Wipha causes more nuclear contamination at Fukushima Turborama Oct 2013 #1
Yes. The whole thing is a disaster. MineralMan Oct 2013 #2
I've been following this disaster pretty closely. PearliePoo2 Oct 2013 #6
Not right at hand, but let me see: MineralMan Oct 2013 #7
thanks! PearliePoo2 Oct 2013 #8
Not nearly as scary as having the structure collapse. MineralMan Oct 2013 #10
One solution early on was to entomb the mess, like Chernobyl. That was one hell of an opration, it freshwest Oct 2013 #37
I know that number 4 is listing/leaning too. PearliePoo2 Oct 2013 #11
I don't know why the spent fuel pool is above MineralMan Oct 2013 #12
Do I understand correctly that... PearliePoo2 Oct 2013 #15
I don't know. That's what some people who are not there MineralMan Oct 2013 #16
But how can you only rely on people on the scene when they have been covering up the situation The Stranger Oct 2013 #17
Slightly yes, mostly no caraher Oct 2013 #21
Thanks for the reply! PearliePoo2 Oct 2013 #25
It's a question of numbers caraher Oct 2013 #28
Well written and informative post PearliePoo2 Oct 2013 #34
3 molten cores contaminating the groundwater. Sounds like the Typhon just hit the flush lever... Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #3
why is the world not there helping? CarrieLynne Oct 2013 #4
Lots of international help WAS offered. PearliePoo2 Oct 2013 #5
im in Seattle...I'm very worried.... CarrieLynne Oct 2013 #22
I'm North of you a bit... PearliePoo2 Oct 2013 #23
Seriously. Buy a Geiger counter. Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #36
And yet we have posters right here on this board madokie Oct 2013 #9
I suppose you're referring to me. MineralMan Oct 2013 #13
Not at all madokie Oct 2013 #14
Yeah...the banana people... PearliePoo2 Oct 2013 #19
You got it PearliePoo2 madokie Oct 2013 #27
There are a myriad of agencies and experts around the world that are capable of doing the job. The Stranger Oct 2013 #18
Well, here's the deal: MineralMan Oct 2013 #20
Everybody RELAX. bvar22 Oct 2013 #24
I'd like to pummel the posters who called us all Chicken Littles over this a year or two ago FiveGoodMen Oct 2013 #29
This is my way of doing that. bvar22 Oct 2013 #33
Japan to seek Ideas Overseas for Fukushima PearliePoo2 Oct 2013 #26
Well that's a positive sign, pride and shame are hard emotional dynamics to overcome. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #32
Right now I'm hoping they can make repairs in time theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #30
Where are now the posters who were claiming 2 months ago that everything was under control??? darkangel218 Oct 2013 #31
K & R Quantess Oct 2013 #35
Really bad title. FBaggins Oct 2013 #38
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