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94. My guess was also based on cynicism, just with different assumptions

Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:37 PM

Sep 2013

I think if a President McCain was in office, war resolutions would already have passed Congress just like in Iraq. Anyone protesting would have been branded unpatriotic. And the attack would have been a broad one, designed to destroy Assad. However, I'm not sure Congress would have been in the equation in that scenario. The USA still loves projecting its military power, have no doubt about that. Your cynicism regarding aggressive USA military action is justified, it just must be tempered by cynicism regarding domestic conflict between the two major political parties.

And the matter at hand, truly isn't settled yet: even though a majority of the House as of today opposes the strike, it's possible that arm-twisting by the leaders of the House could change the outcome.

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Obama to seek Congress vote on Syria military action [View all] muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 OP

PROUD of President Obama. uhnope Aug 2013 #1

Proud?! Carolina Aug 2013 #78

Congress will approve military action against Syria Suburban Warrior Aug 2013 #2

LOL.. very possible! DCBob Aug 2013 #5

Boom! And outlaw unions. nt valerief Aug 2013 #7

Boom again! And cut "entitlement programs" like Soc Sec and Medicare. classof56 Aug 2013 #37

You left out Rand's personhood and RTW bill. I think a red state outlawed talking about labor... freshwest Aug 2013 #72

I think Congres will vote against war David Krout Aug 2013 #9

I think that the House will vote against and the rusty fender Aug 2013 #39

But if one chamber says no, doesn't it mean it's no? David Krout Aug 2013 #42

I really don't know rusty fender Aug 2013 #46

It takes majorities in both the House and Senate to approve a resolution. former9thward Aug 2013 #71

LMFAO L0oniX Aug 2013 #20

And reinstate the Bush tax cuts for the ultra rich. n/t RoccoR5955 Aug 2013 #26

You can't reinstate them. They are already codified into the Tax Code. Demeter Aug 2013 #36

lol yoloisalie Aug 2013 #31

Now, will Congress pull a Terry Schiavo return to DC ASAP to vote? nt valerief Aug 2013 #3

Hey, it's not that kind of emergency! rusty fender Aug 2013 #47

"Will you forgo a strike if Congress disapproves?" freedom fighter jh Aug 2013 #4

Smart move. No need for Obama to hang out on this all by his lonesome. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #6

My Exact Thoughts DallasNE Aug 2013 #27

The House won't approve anything the President proposes andym Aug 2013 #8

Except for the majority of House Democrats who will vote against this war David Krout Aug 2013 #10

The GOP and Democrats will vote against this war andym Aug 2013 #14

Can't help but wonder if that is the strategy southerncrone Sep 2013 #83

As he mzmolly Aug 2013 #11

How very sad elias49 Aug 2013 #12

And to raise taxes to pay for it all? Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #13

Let the rich be surcharged a 50% tax on paying for the war they want.. Billy Love Aug 2013 #77

Good on President Obama. n/t xocet Aug 2013 #15

Good?! Carolina Aug 2013 #79

Yes, the point is that there is no attack as of yet, and it might be that the xocet Aug 2013 #81

Here's mine warrant46 Sep 2013 #89

It is surprising that you have not replied. xocet Sep 2013 #82

didn't reply because Carolina Sep 2013 #85

I can understand that very well. Thank you for the reply. Enjoy your garden. Bye. n/t xocet Sep 2013 #87

'not time sensative' iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #16

same players questionseverything Aug 2013 #28

bandar now questionseverything Aug 2013 #33

Holy cow! rusty fender Aug 2013 #43

if this is true.... RussBLib Aug 2013 #55

If the sarin used came from the Saudis, SwankyXomb Aug 2013 #63

Thank you for posting this ! EVDebs Aug 2013 #54

Two Issues Here DallasNE Aug 2013 #34

you're in deep denial if you think congress will not approve. ellenrr Aug 2013 #17

Not really andym Aug 2013 #19

i doubt itll pass iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #21

Here's another theory. If the GOP thinks that an attack on Syria will backfire on Obama, then totodeinhere Aug 2013 #25

fine. let's re-visit this on Sept 10th. Anyone care to put some $ down? ellenrr Aug 2013 #70

I am willing to wager. So far my scenario looks right: 199 against and 49 for War in the House andym Sep 2013 #92

yes, it looks like cynical me is wrong on this one. glad to be wrong. nt ellenrr Sep 2013 #93

My guess was also based on cynicism, just with different assumptions andym Sep 2013 #94

yes, it's fascinating to watch the party dynamics on this one ellenrr Sep 2013 #95

I think they will give him authority to do what he thinks necessary, just like bush. Hoyt Aug 2013 #30

they will give the authority bec most members of congress receive BIG BUCK$ from the people ellenrr Aug 2013 #69

He should not be asking for congressional authorization to attack Syria. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #18

Good. Now I am imagining Congressional Obama haters' conundrum. uppityperson Aug 2013 #22

I like this development. Lasher Aug 2013 #23

This means September 9th earliest dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #24

congress is coming back tomorrow to meet in committee ellenrr Sep 2013 #86

very good news kpete Aug 2013 #29

what is Obama offering the Republicans? quadrature Aug 2013 #32

The chance to look important muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #38

Obama will make Congress do SOMETHING RussBLib Aug 2013 #35

Very smart move. Not only did he just make sure Congressmen's votes are on the record, but he's jenmito Aug 2013 #40

I'm hoping that Obama is adieu Aug 2013 #41

It will not be a confrontation, it could be an annihilation .... of this murderous regime MindMover Aug 2013 #45

Annihilation by pin prick? We're talking limited missile strikes. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #53

The conversation is continuing and lms was and still is an option ... however MindMover Aug 2013 #61

You think it'll just like that? adieu Aug 2013 #56

Yea you are right on all your ASSUMPTIONS ..... MindMover Aug 2013 #59

You have your assumptions, I have my assumptions adieu Aug 2013 #76

Three words, BRILLIANT, BRILLIANT, BRILLIANT MindMover Aug 2013 #44

Obama Robbins Aug 2013 #48

If impeachment was the goal, there was already use of Military Force without compliance (with the 24601 Sep 2013 #88

Once again Obama makes the CORRECT decision, but I'm sure the right and DUers will still... George II Aug 2013 #49

Somebody please explain this to me potone Aug 2013 #50

This gives the inspectors time to finish their report RussBLib Aug 2013 #57

Congress is not going to vote before the 9th of September muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #62

Let see if they are as smart as the British parliament Jeneral2885 Aug 2013 #51

Enough time for the story to change many times. Coyotl Aug 2013 #52

Is he looking for an out? Ash_F Aug 2013 #58

Damn, I wished he looked for an out before he did drone strikes. ellenrr Aug 2013 #68

He has always been wary of intervention in Syria. iandhr Aug 2013 #60

I would be curious how the party of "NO!" will vote on this one. AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #64

No idea, but maybe this will make M$M dump Cheney and the rest of media war brigade. freshwest Aug 2013 #73

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #65

Obama deserves credit for this decision. Maedhros Aug 2013 #66

The heat is on congress to vote "no" and on Obama not to do this regardless. David__77 Aug 2013 #67

Congrats Mr. Obama. You've found America's EXIT STRATEGY FROM SYRIAN CRISIS! HereSince1628 Aug 2013 #74

Had Obama not sought Congress approval,wingnuts would be drawing up the impeachment papers AKing Aug 2013 #75

Agreed and it places the whole mess in their hands to cstanleytech Sep 2013 #84

yeah real smart. smart move to involve the US in a war even the generals don't want ellenrr Sep 2013 #91

And since Congress is a majority Repubican Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #80

Boehner and Cantor have said they back the president. ellenrr Sep 2013 #90