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freshwest

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80. Actually, it's a lot more than them:
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 02:46 AM
Sep 2013


The Arab League was founded in Cairo in 1945 by seven countries, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Transjordan (Jordan from 1946), and Yemen. There was a continual increase in membership during the second half of the 20th century, with additional 15 Arab States being admitted, with a current total of 21 member States due to Syria's suspension following the 2011 uprising.

On 22 February 2011, following the start of the Libyan civil war and the use of military force against civilians, the Arab League Secretary-General, Amr Moussa, stated that Libya's membership in the Arab League had been suspended: "the organisation has decided to halt the participation of the Libyan delegations from all Arab League sessions".[9] This makes Libya the second country in the League's history to have a frozen membership. Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi declared that the League was illegitimate, saying: "The Arab League is finished. There is no such thing as the Arab League."[10][11] On 25 August 2011, Secretary-General Nabil Elaraby announced it was "about time" Libya's full member status was restored. The National Transitional Council, the partially recognised interim government of Libya, will send a representative to be seated at the Arab League meeting on 17 August to participate in a discussion as to whether to readmit Libya to the organisation.[12]

The Arab Parliament recommended the suspension of member states Syria and Yemen on 20 September 2011, over persistent reports of disproportionate violence against regime opponents and activists during the Arab Spring.[13] A vote on 12 November agreed to formally suspend Syria four days after the vote, giving Assad a last chance to avoid suspension. Syria, Lebanon, and Yemen voted against the motion, while Iraq abstained.[14] A wave of criticism rose as the Arab League sent in December 2011 a commission "monitoring" violence on people protesting against the regime. The commission was headed by Mohammad Ahmed Mustafa al-Dabi, who served as head of Omar al-Bashir's military intelligence, while war crimes including genocide were allegedly committed on his watch.[15][16][17] On 6 March 2013, the Arab League granted the Syrian National Coalition Syria's seat in the Arab League.[citation needed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League

They represent 22 nations composed of over 400 million people. They have not wanted Assad there for some time, seem to see Assad as a threat to them and their people.

The only reason I've heard stated for us for to do the action, is that they are not trained to do so. Each of these countries have military forces but they don't have the kind of know how American armed forces do.

IMO this is a sorry state of affairs for us, but the truth is that is what we have that others don't. I don't like us playing this role, but it's fact that is who we have become after the Cold War years. Success can be a failure.

The goal is what is called a just peace established after the conflict is ended. The Syrian conflict under the Assad family has been waged for generations now, no end in sight. It is now pulling in fighters from all Arab nations, some sponsored and some with nothing better to do. It's out of control. Millions are displaced. The countries most affected are Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey, with the latter calling for Assad to be removed by any means possible to stop the cycle.

That's all I know so far, this is a major mess.
Warpowers for hire. So the U.S. is now a mercenary. MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #1
No kidding!!! mrdmk Sep 2013 #3
At least we're starting to be honest about who we're working for. CincyDem Sep 2013 #5
true & I seem to recall something similar about Iraq: "Iraqi oil will pay for this war" wordpix Sep 2013 #41
You mean it didn't? nt CincyDem Sep 2013 #50
NO lumpy Sep 2013 #60
doing the bidding of others. This is soooo in the national interest: American lives, limbs, brains, indepat Sep 2013 #27
Basically, we're the Hessians. KamaAina Sep 2013 #34
Read - "That's not in the cards" karynnj Sep 2013 #58
No. It won't be accepted. lumpy Sep 2013 #59
The words in Kerry's mouth are exceptionally malleable. MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #61
how are you so sure? Our puppetmasters in SA are calling and OIL wordpix Sep 2013 #63
They already paid for the rebel uprising. They have money to burn. nt kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #74
Saudi Arabia paid around US$36 billion of the US$60 billion cost.[20] Sand Wind Sep 2013 #2
how much did we get in 2003? hobbit709 Sep 2013 #6
The Iraq war was the most stupid war from a long time ago. Every single mistake Sand Wind Sep 2013 #8
That's not what I asked. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #9
the Department of Defense's direct spending on Iraq totaled at least $757.8 billion. Sand Wind Sep 2013 #11
Buy 1, Get 1 FREE Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #17
Out-sourcing our military out to further Saudi interests. Divernan Sep 2013 #16
Careful -- I used a word less offensive (I think) than "whoring" eissa Sep 2013 #23
Point taken, I edited it to "out-sourcing" Divernan Sep 2013 #33
PAt Dollard?...really?...read the comments at the end of that article....wise choice of source?nt pkdu Sep 2013 #78
That's why I included back up links to USA Today et al. Divernan Sep 2013 #81
They know whats important to US politicians DJ13 Sep 2013 #4
To be fair, that's an objection christx30 Sep 2013 #15
also BigOil - Syria has "largest proved reserve of crude oil in the eastern Mediterranean" wordpix Sep 2013 #65
I think you're right, its (mostly) about oil DJ13 Sep 2013 #67
The whole M.E. situation can be described in two words. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #7
no the two words are Big Oil wordpix Sep 2013 #68
So wha choo wan? You wan I break 'es legs? DeSwiss Sep 2013 #10
And that's...a good thing? Brickbat Sep 2013 #12
If we do put our boots on the ground in Syria ... spin Sep 2013 #13
Yes. They will pay for it all. Kerry is no BS artist. He is honorable. Dr Fate Sep 2013 #20
Honorable? arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #29
He is going to get the Arabs to pay for this. Now we can afford all that liberal stuff.... Dr Fate Sep 2013 #30
I suspect your posts are largely sarcastic but not everyone realizes this. (n/t) spin Sep 2013 #49
yeah, I missed that arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #53
"liberal stuff" ???? YOHABLO Sep 2013 #71
"they have offered to pay for all of a full invasion" - and send their own army to Syria? wordpix Sep 2013 #44
Jobs! Renew Deal Sep 2013 #14
These developments establish what the US govt./military is; now they'll just haggle over price. Divernan Sep 2013 #21
So, what -- if Assad doubles their offer, we'll bomb the Arab League instead? WTF?? phantom power Sep 2013 #18
lol Renew Deal Sep 2013 #24
We can too afford it! I knew it! Dr Fate Sep 2013 #19
Well sure. Brewinblue Sep 2013 #22
Doesn't accepting free stuff make us moochers? n/t eissa Sep 2013 #25
red blood for black oil? Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #26
Those "Arab nations" sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #28
As in---- pay no attention to the man behind the curtain--Thanks Dorothy warrant46 Sep 2013 #54
"Go do the whole thing...." arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #31
I'm looking at this a little differently..... Xolodno Sep 2013 #32
Very interesting question. arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #35
Yes....but good leaders surround themselves with smart people... Xolodno Sep 2013 #42
ummm florida08 Sep 2013 #36
If Saudi Arabia wants it, it is probably a bad idea. /nt Ash_F Sep 2013 #38
Saudi Arabia created the situation by supporting the opposition in Syria. Coyotl Sep 2013 #43
good point + we used to pay our proxy & now we ARE the proxy. We're truly a 3rd World nation now wordpix Sep 2013 #46
Qatar paid 3 billion jakeXT Sep 2013 #45
ahhh florida08 Sep 2013 #47
Actually, it's a lot more than them: freshwest Sep 2013 #80
Does that include pensions to anyone disabled, survivor benefits to surviving spouses and children cstanleytech Sep 2013 #37
Will the Arabs Pay for the PTSD, the Wooden Legs the Plastic Hands, the Catheter Bags ? warrant46 Sep 2013 #52
Holy fuck, has Kerry lost his mind? The Stranger Sep 2013 #39
It's like a bad science fiction movie where the human mask arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #51
he is the 1% now, his Vietnam days far behind:-( wordpix Sep 2013 #62
perhaps it is time for a regional war..nt quadrature Sep 2013 #40
Jsut when I thought I could not be any more gob smacked...... dixiegrrrrl Sep 2013 #48
Quick! Take the money and run! KansDem Sep 2013 #55
So our military has been annexed by Saudi Arabia Ocelot Sep 2013 #56
Yeah abelenkpe Sep 2013 #57
Sound familiar? The Iraq War was supposed to pay for itself. Mysterysouppe Sep 2013 #64
well it did pay Cheney & his cronies at KBR Hollowburden wordpix Sep 2013 #66
That's right! arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #76
That wasn't the smartest point to make... Adam-Bomb Sep 2013 #69
US, Syria and Saudi Arabia JustanAngel Sep 2013 #70
This makes me truly sick Caretha Sep 2013 #72
So, the U.S. is now a paid army for Arab countries daleo Sep 2013 #73
the Gulf dictatorships have been financing US militarism for decades Alamuti Lotus Sep 2013 #75
Honestly who cares and what is the point and again who cares????? SammyWinstonJack Sep 2013 #77
You know, it strikes me... Scootaloo Sep 2013 #79
Get me Luca Brazzi. King_Klonopin Sep 2013 #82
Have gun; Will travel PuffedMica Sep 2013 #83
They don't need the US for that jakeXT Sep 2013 #84
So it's out in the open now (with an unsurprising lack of shame) ... Nihil Sep 2013 #85
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