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freshwest

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15. Sounds like it's functioning well for millions of Americans right now, despite all complaints.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:41 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Tue Jul 23, 2013, 03:00 PM - Edit history (1)

Eliminating government is the base of the Libertarian Party platform, that all can survive on charity, government must go away. Not only that, but Social Security must go away, which is what is keeping millions of people right now from being hungry and homeless...

We are talking about well over a hundred million people getting the essentials of life right now. Not everyone needs these long-term:

In 2012, over 56 million Americans will receive $778 billion in Social Security benefits.

http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/basicfact.htm

Medicaid is the nation’s largest health program in terms of number of recipients, serving 56 million to Medicare’s 48 million.

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthtopics/medicaid/index.html

More than a third of Americans lived in households receiving government assistance in 2010.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/07/news/economy/government_assistance/index.htm

More than 46.6 Million Americans Participated in SNAP in June 2012

http://frac.org/reports-and-resources/snapfood-stamp-monthly-participation-data/

The Libertarian Party Platform on Welfare:

http://www.lp.org/issues/poverty-and-welfare

The Libertarian Party Platform on Health care:


http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Libertarian_Party_Health_Care.htm

More Libertarian, Ron Paul, Tea Bagger ideas that Democrats do not believe in:

Libertarians believe that taxes should be abolished along with all the programs and departments that taxes fund. Libertarians don’t believe in Medicare. Libertarians don’t believe in Social Security. Libertarians don’t believe that there should be fire departments, police departments, public transportation, grants for education, unemployment, disability, food stamps, and every other type of government system and assistance that you can think of.

Libertarians wish to eliminate taxes in order to eliminate all of the above programs and more. Libertarians believe that without these taxes, individuals will have more money in their pockets and will be able to afford all of these things. If someone is unable to provide themselves or their family with school, health care, or food, people need to rely on family members, church, or a private charity.

Libertarians believe that government’s role in the market should be to protect property owner’s rights. There should be no FDA, equal employment opportunities, unions, minimum wage, payroll taxes, safe food handling requirements, consumer protections, regulations that protect against financial conflicts of interest and fraud, and business licenses.

Libertarians believe that business owners should have the right to deny entry to minorities and/or women and/or people with disabilities, if that is how business owners wish to run their businesses.


http://deni-edwards.hubpages.com/hub/Defining-a-Libertarian-Ron-Pauls-Political-Platform

Social Security and Medicaid keeps millions of people they will never meet, and have no idea exist, off the streets. They disapprove of those who are doing the work to keep them alive and well, because it's a 'statist' thing, not ideologically pure, easy for them.

Democrats are and will continue to help many more people than private groups ever will. The GOP who are primarily Libertarians, plan to end all government so there will no votes needed, just be connected to the biggest boss you can find.

Here's another link:

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/02/federal-benefits-able-bodied-workers

Anyone who cares about such things, won't be cavalier like Mr. Lee and the media about this subject. Those unaffected, can make such claims, when those would be, knows things could be much worse.

And that the GOP, Libertarians and Tea Baggers are in full favor of the government being shut down. Not Democrats nor the American people.

ignore them, let them shut it all down nt msongs Jul 2013 #1
Yeah, if that would include Congress, I say go for it. classof56 Jul 2013 #4
Little bit late for that.... Roy Rolling Jul 2013 #9
In his own garbled way, Brigid Jul 2013 #17
Agree. Grins Jul 2013 #20
Invoke the Nuclear Option Mr. David Jul 2013 #2
Dear Mr Lee demwing Jul 2013 #3
He can be the new Newt Getrich BumRushDaShow Jul 2013 #5
gawd pls. stop the STOOPID of the grandstanding repukelicans wordpix Jul 2013 #6
brooklynite Diclotican Jul 2013 #7
It's awesome to watch and listen to the hate these freaks have for that health plan. tofuandbeer Jul 2013 #8
?????? heaven05 Jul 2013 #10
Let's just unelect Mr. Lee instead. that seems more workable. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #11
It's already so nonfunctional what difference would it make. NV Whino Jul 2013 #12
Of course our soldiers would not be paid, fed, or patched up when injured. SS checks would alfredo Jul 2013 #14
Sounds like it's functioning well for millions of Americans right now, despite all complaints. freshwest Jul 2013 #15
I lived in a Libertarian paradise. The poor, sick, and aged lived on the streets. There were open alfredo Jul 2013 #22
Somolia? Brigid Jul 2013 #24
Close, Ethiopia before the revolution. alfredo Jul 2013 #25
My apologies. Pab Sungenis Jul 2013 #26
Good. It'll give the ACA the visibility the administration should be giving it. It'll be a plus for byeya Jul 2013 #13
Impeach Sen. Lee for Treason..... lastlib Jul 2013 #16
He sounds like a little prima donna to me... Helen Borg Jul 2013 #18
Arrest the bastard for sedition! AAO Jul 2013 #19
God, I hope they try Downtown Hound Jul 2013 #21
None of the Dems, including the resident of the WH, will call their bluff Doctor_J Jul 2013 #23
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