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freshwest

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71. Excellent question! Interview with the presidents of the AMA and the TMA:
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:53 PM
Jul 2013
Peter Carmel and Bruce Malone: The TT Interview

by Emily Ramshaw and Thanh Tan
January 31, 2012



FYI: Peter Carmel is one the left, and the president of the AMA (American Medical Association) and Bruce Malone is on the right and the president of the TMA (Texas Medical Association). They both answer the TT (Texas Tribune) interviewer's questions regarding the sonogram law in Texas and the attack on Planned Parenthood:

Carmel: It is a needless, dangerous interference with the practice of medicine by politicians. And as physicians, we have to oppose all interference that we possibly can by politicians in the practice of medicine. There are all sorts of rules all over the country, with state legislatures trying to dictate what doctors do. In the state of Florida, it is illegal for a doctor to ask the family of a child whether there are guns in the home. You can ask about storage of chemicals, about fire alarms, fire escapes, open windows, how the windows are sealed. You’re allowed to ask all those questions, but you cannot ask whether there are firearms in the home. Firearms are a major cause of childhood mortality and injury. It’s so extreme as to be ludicrous. The important principle is, the government shouldn’t interfere with the doctor-patient relationship. The government shouldn’t practice medicine.

TT: And what about Texas lawmakers’ efforts to slash spending on family planning? Now they’re threatening not to participate in the Medicaid Women’s Health Program if they can’t exclude Planned Parenthood.

Malone: That would be a really stupid thing to do. Planned Parenthood does not do abortions in the state of Texas with state funds. So this is a very stupid political thing. It’s not like the state of Texas has another safety net for these women for medical care. The Texas Medical Association doesn’t want to get into the issue of whether a patient wants an elective abortion. That’s not what we’re dealing with. We’re talking about well woman services, pap smears and breast exams, things that make public health sense. And we don’t want to see those women who are vulnerable denied essential medical services because someone wants to debate an ethics issue. That’s their right to debate that. That’s fine, but these are essential medical services.

Carmel: What it sets up is two classes of patients. If you’ve got rocks, you’ve got the ability, you’ve got access to contraception, to women’s health, to all of these things. If you’re poor, we’re going to deny you access to that kind of health. That’s first of all not tolerable for medicine, and it can’t be tolerable for Americans. No American would say, "Yes, the poor should get inferior treatment."

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-special-interest-groups/texas-medical-association/dr-peter-carmel-and-dr-bruce-malone-tt-interview/

They covered every point that a progressive would make. Whether they've been run out of town since the interview, I don't know. But they were well-informed and acting like rational human beings.

Texas has always had a strong progressive streak and citizens there have just been overwhelmed by an all out attack on sanity, IMO. I found that article by going through what I thought was for women's rights, but realized it was a pro-life apologists story, the first that showed up under my search terms:

https://liveaction.org/blog/ultrasound-law-is-dangerous-according-to-the-american-medical-association/

The home page shows it's a radical blog:

http://www.liveaction.org/

The contention in the articles show that it smears women chastising them for being callous, or acting like someone telling them what to do that rich people don't have to ask permission for, like DeMint's bull.

I don't know if TRMS went into the real issue, that this is for oppressing and creating chaos in the lives of poor and middle class women, as rich women have never had any problem getting a pregnancy terminated. If nothing else, they would fly to another area or country in the past.

These lawmakers know that the target group can't do that. The last paragraph in the TT article shows that the doctors know what is going on with this, and dispute it in some of the strongest terms I've heard yet.

Naturally, the Live Action Blog wants to paint the doctors as wanting to make money off the procedure and protecting a lucrative business, which is a myth. Much more money is made in prenatal, birthing and pediatric care.

What it would be good to know is who is funding Live Action Blog? We can see that she is right wing darling and is no doubt paid for here appearances and interviews, and enjoying non-profit status as group, most likely has filed to not pay taxes as well.

I smell Koch/ALEC money. I'm not buying the cover story. This is an organizing tool of the religious rights and political all the way.

Thanks for leading me to research that.

Just lay back and enjoy it, amiright ladies? tanyev Jun 2013 #1
Of course they will! Object rape is just so sexy! freshwest Jun 2013 #22
What an evil corrupt piece of Feces this Man is warrant46 Jul 2013 #65
Warrant46, what a great piece on this hateful fraud. While I don't agree with all of it, I liked it. freshwest Jul 2013 #68
It's RAPE DEMINT! NYtoBush-Drop Dead Jul 2013 #70
dear demint, I had one for a medical reason not abortion related. roguevalley Jul 2013 #77
Agreed, they suck rebecca_herman Jul 2013 #78
And he would know this how? n/t Lugnut Jun 2013 #2
I saw that segment. Dear god, he can't really be that ignorant, can he? Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2013 #3
He Wouldn't Call It Ignorant, He Would Call It God's Law DallasNE Jun 2013 #30
He would probably enjoy an ultrasound prostate exam. Downwinder Jun 2013 #4
Maybe the GOP could market a line of Ultrasound Sex toys.. radhika Jun 2013 #5
Simple, lets also have a Iliyah Jun 2013 #6
I think they would Shiraz Jun 2013 #47
Spread the word... Jim DeMint enjoys running his dick through a pencil sharpener! MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #7
I'm gonna use that! F**k Jim DeMint. Little Star Jun 2013 #19
Frankly, I suspect he enjoys being sodomized question everything Jun 2013 #40
Ann Coulter! MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #41
Pardon me for a moment Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #8
Bring on the mandated trans-prostate ultrasounds!! longship Jun 2013 #9
I suggest he submit to one before he speaks for women. hollysmom Jun 2013 #10
That sick fuck BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #11
Would he name 5 women who went in for an abortion and enjoyed the required ultrasound? Shrike47 Jun 2013 #12
My GAWD, he sounds just like a rapist MrScorpio Jun 2013 #13
All that needs to be said MillennialDem Jun 2013 #14
+10.000, you're not kidding. smirkymonkey Jul 2013 #83
"Come on, sweetie ... Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #15
Perhaps he should propose Red Mountain Jun 2013 #16
This is a kind of reverse psychology , right ? Sand Wind Jun 2013 #17
Jim DeMint women like forced ultrasounds NANDEE218 Jun 2013 #18
This calls for legislation which requires intrusion into the male body. undeterred Jun 2013 #20
How did he determine this? Does it depend upon how they are dressed? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #21
I really miss seeing this dim-witted clown .... Hulk Jun 2013 #23
Dear God, that man needs a forced ultrasound probe Trailrider1951 Jun 2013 #24
They probably like being raped too, eh Jim? nt BootinUp Jun 2013 #25
wtf is wrong with him? SummerSnow Jun 2013 #26
"Women want to be raped by instruments." sakabatou Jun 2013 #27
And imo DeMint(ed) should be forced to have a prostate exam cstanleytech Jun 2013 #28
Well, they don't want to appear too eager, I guess. ehrnst Jun 2013 #29
I propose a new law: Brigid Jun 2013 #31
Well, of course they want them. Orsino Jun 2013 #32
I had an abortion years ago, they did an ultrasound El Fuego Jun 2013 #33
+1.,000. freshwest Jun 2013 #35
Yeah, that. AllyCat Jun 2013 #38
It might have been done to verify that it was a uterine pregnancy, not an ectopic one. n/t winter is coming Jun 2013 #43
Yes, it often is medically prudent... colinmom71 Jul 2013 #74
An 8 week ultrasound looks like a "real child?" MsPithy Jun 2013 #34
A turtle? Hell, it's a blob with a twitch. n/t winter is coming Jun 2013 #44
Heh chances are, yes SnakeEyes Jun 2013 #50
Maybe they will start requiring fake pics nobodyspecial Jun 2013 #45
The (R)ape party has learned nothing after losing a winnable election. Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #36
No. No, I don't. AllyCat Jun 2013 #37
Somewhere, somehow.............. mrmpa Jun 2013 #39
They didn't want to show me my ectopic ultrasound HockeyMom Jun 2013 #42
Someone should shove a probe up his ass and not in a nice way. Beacool Jun 2013 #46
. . . and the Tea Party is a grass roots movement Jack Rabbit Jun 2013 #48
POS. Solly Mack Jun 2013 #49
Jim DeMint needs that thing shoved up his arse Warpy Jul 2013 #51
And Jim DeMint want to be smacked all around his cranium with an 8oz ball-peen hammer. No, really... marble falls Jul 2013 #52
I'm sure jim demint, being a woman, knows best... Javaman Jul 2013 #53
How the hell would he know what women want? What an idiot...nt raccoon Jul 2013 #54
Some Senators want to be forced to have prostate exams nt One_Life_To_Give Jul 2013 #55
That's it. He's just projecting. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #79
Days Since A Republican Said Something Stupid About Rape: 0. Arkana Jul 2013 #56
That particular counter can just throw away christx30 Jul 2013 #61
I'd love to shove an ultrasound wand right where the sun don't shine. catbyte Jul 2013 #57
Demint needs a forced colonoscopy every time Zoeisright Jul 2013 #58
"3,000 babies we lose every day" d_r Jul 2013 #59
Why isn't the AMA up in arms about this? SwissTony Jul 2013 #60
Excellent question! Interview with the presidents of the AMA and the TMA: freshwest Jul 2013 #71
3000 babies a day tartan2 Jul 2013 #62
So, this must be "Legitimate Rape." B Stieg Jul 2013 #63
You know what else we like? eissa Jul 2013 #64
Are there any women who don't know what they're pregnant with? jmowreader Jul 2013 #66
! blue neen Jul 2013 #67
Legalized RAPE - that the woman is forced to PAY for. Triana Jul 2013 #69
WAR AGAINST REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #72
It's a mind blower. Mushroom Jul 2013 #73
I wanna give DeMint a fucking ultrasound cliffordu Jul 2013 #75
because women are stupid little children who need men to tell them what to do booley Jul 2013 #76
People like him make God look really bad lunatica Jul 2013 #80
I saw that segment. He also lied and said women weren't forced to pay for it Mc Mike Jul 2013 #81
Jim DeDouchebag AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #82
Yeah that's an "opportunity" that nobody fucking wants!!! Initech Jul 2013 #84
#KeepGovtOutOfVaginas n/t Coyotl Jul 2013 #85
Go fuck yourself Jim Demented Blue Owl Jul 2013 #86
Part of our hell on earth we must endure is having to listen to the contents of Jim DeMint's mind. gtar100 Jul 2013 #87
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