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OKIsItJustMe

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Wed Sep 13, 2023, 04:28 PM Sep 2023

Earth 'well outside safe operating space for humanity', scientists find [View all]

Source: The Guardian

First complete ‘scientific health check’ shows most global systems beyond stable range in which modern civilisation emerged

Damian Carrington Environment editor
@dpcarrington
Wed 13 Sep 2023 14.00 EDT

Earth’s life support systems have been so damaged that the planet is “well outside of the safe operating space for humanity”, scientists have warned.

Their assessment found that six out of nine “planetary boundaries” had been broken because of human-caused pollution and destruction of the natural world. The planetary boundaries are the limits at which key global systems, such as climate, water and wildlife diversity, beyond which these systems’ ability to maintain a healthy planet is in serious peril.

The broken boundaries mean the systems have been driven far from the safe and stable state that existed from the end of the last ice age, 10,000 years ago, to the start of the industrial revolution. The whole of modern civilisation arose in this time period, called the Holocene.

The assessment was the first of all nine planetary boundaries and represented the “first scientific health check for the entire planet”, the researchers said. Six boundaries have been passed and two are judged to be close to being broken: air pollution and ocean acidification. The one boundary that is not threatened is atmospheric ozone, after action to phase out destructive chemicals in recent decades led to the ozone hole shrinking.



Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/sep/13/earth-well-outside-safe-operating-space-for-humanity-scientists-find



http://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adh2458
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Hard to think of discussing such matters with my grands, elleng Sep 2023 #1
I am sure it would be hard, and I am sorry. hamsterjill Sep 2023 #2
Thanks elleng Sep 2023 #3
15 years ago I was at a family gathering OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #4
One (at least) of my 9 year old grandsons has engineering interests, elleng Sep 2023 #5
My oldest, dearest friend is a "counselor" OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #8
Thank you. elleng Sep 2023 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author AllaN01Bear Sep 2023 #6
The start of the Western Industrial Revolution was the start of the bullet about to hit the fan! Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2023 #7
There's some evidence that the bullet was fired when agriculture began... OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #10
Beat me to it BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #23
Again, The Guardian is reporting good and news that we don't see in the US M$M erronis Sep 2023 #11
It's not a Newspaper per se, but... OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #17
I've received New Scientist for 10+ years. It's become too expensive for me erronis Sep 2023 #18
Yes, New Scientist has become quite expensive OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #21
It's interesting. Heah in VT we have two very vibrant and active news outlets. erronis Sep 2023 #30
I married a woman with grown children, Mr.Bill Sep 2023 #12
I'm beginning to think civilization on earth is near the end. LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #13
You're almost right. 20 years, not 200. Brenda Sep 2023 #37
we are in civilizational collapse right now Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #55
You think there will be no more humans in 20 years? Polybius Sep 2023 #64
I didn't say that. Brenda Sep 2023 #65
We're adaptable Warpy Sep 2023 #14
I am not as confident OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #20
Thanks for the good read housecat Sep 2023 #44
The acidification of the ocean will remove 1/3 of th worlds food Javaman Sep 2023 #25
Wait, but are you speaking of this? BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #28
right. There will still be homo sapiens. Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #56
We're adaptable. roamer65 Sep 2023 #70
So with little hope of the planetary support systems expanding, jaxexpat Sep 2023 #15
capitalism must die GenXer47 Sep 2023 #16
Materialism gotta go BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #26
This is the reality that is being denied. Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #54
In high school biology in 1962.. Permanut Sep 2023 #19
Peanuts, March 11, 1957 OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #22
Even the wisdom of cartoonists fell on deaf ears housecat Sep 2023 #29
Missed that one, thanks! Permanut Sep 2023 #46
You're welcome! OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #47
That's a gold mine. Permanut Sep 2023 #50
Yet overpopulation in less-developed countries is currently less of a problem than the greed of housecat Sep 2023 #27
Not really BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #31
If I buy a product manufactured in China because it's cheap who is responsible for the emissions? OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #34
Good point. Maybe we should have two separate conversations-- one around overpopulation and one housecat Sep 2023 #38
If anything, they suffer more OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #40
Sure when parents drive around and don't go anywhere -- whenn anyone does that housecat Sep 2023 #43
Okay maybe industrialized is the wrong term. But China and India, two overpopulated AND industrial housecat Sep 2023 #35
And US per capita emissions are greater than the citizens of either nation OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #36
Agreed. The cause is shared. Maybe a solution will be multinational. housecat Sep 2023 #39
But that's the point BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #48
yes and no. Few drive a car in many overpopulated areas housecat Sep 2023 #60
Hmmm... Interesting viewpoint... OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #62
not to mention the trash Snooper9 Sep 2023 #58
As disgusting this is for water and life, the damage to climate is small housecat Sep 2023 #61
Much like The Thames in the Industrial Revolution, the West can help with this also! Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2023 #68
If US mines export their coal to China who is responsible for the resulting emissions? OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #45
Still China BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #49
Mining companies destroy land whether they burn coal or not housecat Sep 2023 #63
We.Fucking.Suck. EarthFirst Sep 2023 #24
What will Republicans do when their dividend checks stop? bucolic_frolic Sep 2023 #32
The republican reaction? Mr.Bill Sep 2023 #33
10-15yrs ago... Snackshack Sep 2023 #41
Yep... Think. Again. Sep 2023 #42
It sounds that the end of the Holocene era is long past DFW Sep 2023 #51
In the end the danger comes down to pollution. If we get a handle on that it can buy us time to cstanleytech Sep 2023 #52
Nothing new here. Aussie105 Sep 2023 #53
It is true that "the whole of modern civilization arose after the last ice age during the Holocene, Martin68 Sep 2023 #57
Don't be too confident OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #59
I think if you read it carefully, it addresses the effects on "society" and "civilization" in terms Martin68 Sep 2023 #66
My hunch (like yours) is that a "remnant" may survive OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #67
But you are positing an advanced technological solution. I am suggesting a return to small hunter- Martin68 Sep 2023 #72
Want to truly help fight climate change? roamer65 Sep 2023 #69
Global Weirding - The easiest ways to fix climate change is population control and going vegan - ... OKIsItJustMe Sep 2023 #71
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