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BumRushDaShow

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61. From what I saw somewhere this morning
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 02:24 PM
Aug 2020

their charitable arm is HQ'd in VA and the AG of D.C. is also working from their end as well. Plus you have this from the NYT piece that revealed some of the impetus behind the cases (originally published last December and updated as recently as today) -

Inside Wayne LaPierre’s Battle for the N.R.A.

By Danny Hakim

Published Dec. 18, 2019
Updated Aug. 6, 2020, 11:58 a.m. ET


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And since April, the New York State attorney general, Letitia James, has been conducting a civil investigation of the N.R.A., which is chartered in New York. Now, veterans of the attorney general’s office and some within the N.R.A.’s inner circle believe James will weigh whether to seek a criminal referral related to LaPierre’s use of nonprofit funds for personal expenses.

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I asked LaPierre if he worried about his own criminal exposure. “I actually don’t,” he said, citing the safe-harbor provision. He called Brewer’s work “the largest forensic audit that’s ever been done on the association” to “see if there was anything we needed to self-correct.” Tax experts I spoke with, however, noted that such provisions did not generally apply to personal expenses, and in any case would need to have been addressed before James opened the inquiry. The investigation is being led by the charities bureau of the attorney general’s office, which oversees all nonprofits. Such investigations are typically civil procedures, but the office can refer criminal findings to another agency, or be granted criminal jurisdiction by the governor.

“If the expenses incurred by Mr. LaPierre were not legitimate business expenses of the N.R.A., and if he conspired with others within or outside the N.R.A. to incur those expenses in a way that would conceal them, then criminal charges could not only be brought against Mr. LaPierre, but also the others who were involved in the scheme,” said Sean Delany, a former chief of the charities bureau. Daniel Kurtz, another former charities-bureau chief, said the N.R.A. would have to establish that such transactions were “fair, reasonable and in the corporation’s best interest,” adding, “They can assert that, but it’s preposterous.” Kurtz did see some hurdles for a criminal case, based on what was known, because LaPierre was not said to have diverted money directly into his own pocket. But the attorney general can go to court and seek to restructure an organization’s board, oust its management, recoup misspent funds or even pressure it to dissolve.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/18/magazine/wayne-lapierre-nra-guns.html


I.e., it's probably pretty obvious that LaPierre engaged in criminal activities but it would behoove to get all of the records over the long time that he has been in place, so that they can prove it (for criminal - "beyond the shadow of a doubt" vs "preponderance of the evidence" for civil), so he and the rest of them can be nailed hook, line, and sinker.
Personally, i kinda like having the corrupt NRA at the forefront of the gun rights movement. Calista241 Aug 2020 #1
The NRA has insane amounts of lobbying power though. bearsfootball516 Aug 2020 #5
That power is transferrable. Calista241 Aug 2020 #15
I'd say that lapierre, et al feathering their nests with donors' money Mersky Aug 2020 #59
Dissolved or not, her opening statement..no one is above the law. That is not a political argument Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #64
Lobbying costs money, however. And that is something the NRA is going to be divested of. BComplex Aug 2020 #37
Plus it should mean less money they have to spend on R Senators & Representatives KS Toronado Aug 2020 #44
Bingo! BComplex Aug 2020 #45
That money will still be spent. Calista241 Aug 2020 #66
The 2nd amendment foundation was the actual legal backer behind the Calista241 Aug 2020 #84
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K&R-shut the corrupt NRA down!!! onetexan Aug 2020 #26
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And I thought this was going to be about Trump underpants Aug 2020 #3
She fired a very large shot across the bow of the Trump organization. flamin lib Aug 2020 #32
Yup. orangecrush Aug 2020 #56
I was hoping her announcement would involve some trump criminal activity, but this is good too. George II Aug 2020 #4
He's definitely in a weakened state BumRushDaShow Aug 2020 #7
Maybe she'll field some questions on the trump stuff at the end. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2020 #9
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What about the Russian money laundered by the NRA? panader0 Aug 2020 #47
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Wouldn't that make the NRA the victims of the fraud by the executives? MichMan Aug 2020 #6
It is a Russian laundromat. Shut it down dalton99a Aug 2020 #8
NRA got more money from Russia-linked sources than earlier reported UpInArms Aug 2020 #13
+1 dalton99a Aug 2020 #17
--wonder if she wants her dues back. 3Hotdogs Aug 2020 #38
NRA Was 'Foreign Asset' To Russia Ahead of 2016, New Senate Report Reveals UpInArms Aug 2020 #51
K&R!! onetexan Aug 2020 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Aug 2020 #77
Follow dat money! soothsayer Aug 2020 #19
Did they find any Oligarch money bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #11
You might want to look here. Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2020 #81
THIS was the "major announcement"??? hamsterjill Aug 2020 #12
It's a major award! soothsayer Aug 2020 #20
haha. I got the reference. :-) nt Grasswire2 Aug 2020 #43
After 3 years of everyone under the sun trying with no resolution except more court filings BumRushDaShow Aug 2020 #25
I'm watching on MSNBC. At least 18 counts. DinahMoeHum Aug 2020 #14
She's pounding those sick NRA fucks Zorro Aug 2020 #16
Excellent. That put a smile on my face this morning! chowder66 Aug 2020 #18
Very good news! cp Aug 2020 #21
We are innocent! We did not spend members' dollars on ourselves- only the rubles. Marcuse Aug 2020 #22
+1 dalton99a Aug 2020 #23
It started out OK I think Delarage Aug 2020 #24
I've got some old NRA mags from 1962/63 and their action section shows them fighting yaesu Aug 2020 #27
This is a warning shot across the bow, for the turd. Letitia is letting him know she doesn't play not_the_one Aug 2020 #28
Oh! Oh! From your lips to God's ears!!! BComplex Aug 2020 #42
Just imagine getting (rightly) called out on your dishonesty and ethics by Ollie North! keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #30
Sweet! Let's get more states on this, like Virginia where they are headquartered IronLionZion Aug 2020 #31
I'm curious if this is the tip of something larger... Javaman Aug 2020 #33
In 2016 both Trump and many GOP Senators got a shit ton of money from Russia through the NRA Botany Aug 2020 #34
NRA Cuts More Operating Costs-and Lavishes Executives With Perks keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #35
Karma!!!! Now they have to use money they don't have to pay for lawyers they can't afford. ResistantAmerican17 Aug 2020 #36
"and let him bill his liquor" - Budget buster! keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #67
Sure enough!!! That would be the bulk of their remaining rubles. ResistantAmerican17 Aug 2020 #68
Didn't most of their money come from gun manufacturers? 3Hotdogs Aug 2020 #39
woulda it'd rather been a RICO case, but great news Ponietz Aug 2020 #40
Of course, he's a psychopathic conartist, he would screw and kill as many people as possible DSandra Aug 2020 #41
Perfect timing bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #46
However, in the back of my mind I keep thinking this could be what's needed to rile up tRump's base groundloop Aug 2020 #49
Not if they realize that they were bilked out of their $$$ BumRushDaShow Aug 2020 #50
It's a good point bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #53
THIS ScratchCat Aug 2020 #54
Yes, could be costly in PA, MN, WI, MI, OH JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2020 #82
If the lawsuit uncovers Russian (or other) money laundering dlk Aug 2020 #48
I think that's what this is about. Scruffy1 Aug 2020 #75
The money laundering, the lobbying, the political contributions... dlk Aug 2020 #79
I wonder how much $$$ of our tax dollars went to NRA friendly gun companies thru PPP? FailureToCommunicate Aug 2020 #52
Thoughts & Prayers Mutherfuckers (n/t) malchickiwick Aug 2020 #55
Very good news. Hope it makes the traitorous murderer squirm. niyad Aug 2020 #57
But no criminal charges madville Aug 2020 #58
From what I saw somewhere this morning BumRushDaShow Aug 2020 #61
For sure, alot of discovery to be done, and then criminal indictments of individuals will follow. onetexan Aug 2020 #73
The goal of dissolving the NRA seemed like a non-sequitur. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2020 #83
This is blockbuster! Wawannabe Aug 2020 #60
SOOOO glad that she was elected and not Zephyr Teachout a couple of years ago! George II Aug 2020 #62
Not what I was hoping for... SergeStorms Aug 2020 #63
Good luck. Expect a game of whack-a-mole. Steelrolled Aug 2020 #65
And the Trumpsters will take this as an assault on the 2nd amendment LiberalLovinLug Aug 2020 #69
Throw them on the ash heap. warmfeet Aug 2020 #70
I hope she succeeds! Yeehah Aug 2020 #71
I don't like Wayno discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2020 #74
They can blame Ollie North. JohnnyRingo Aug 2020 #78
hehe dustyscamp Aug 2020 #80
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