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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders delegates mount convention rebellion over 'Medicare for All' [View all]lapucelle
(18,277 posts)207. HRC campaigned on the public option in 2008 and on "Medicare for More" in 2016.
I think that it was a big job best done in a series of steps was at least part of the consideration.
John Conyers introduced His Medicare for All bill HR 676 in every session of Congress beginning in 2003 and ending in 2017. No one in the Senate ever bothered to write and introduce a companion bill.
https://www.healthcareitnews.com/news/hillary-clintons-medicare-more-has-both-pros-and-cons-studies-find
https://www.congress.gov/bill/108th-congress/house-bill/676
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Bernie Sanders delegates mount convention rebellion over 'Medicare for All' [View all]
George II
Jul 2020
OP
I have been going to conventions for years, that was the most shameful thing I have ever seen.
redstatebluegirl
Jul 2020
#3
No, that wasn't single payer he was talking about. It was Universal Health Care.
ehrnst
Jul 2020
#157
Sure, if you say so. But I try not to defeat myself before starting a fight. If you say
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2020
#159
Why so we can lose the House again...we got no policy from eight years of Pres. Obama
Demsrule86
Jul 2020
#185
"going to have win some hearts and minds" -- that is always needed to make progress. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2020
#191
It's another garbage "Holly Otterbein" piece. Good grief she's a piece of work, ain't she?
NurseJackie
Jul 2020
#22
You can disagree with the article and her ideas without trashing a member's family.
vsrazdem
Jul 2020
#50
You read a lot more in there than Nurse wrote. Holly isn't among the best journalists on the street.
marble falls
Jul 2020
#54
She has a platform. If she can write the shit she writes, she can be criticized for it.
MrsCoffee
Jul 2020
#199
Holly is well compensated and she was even named the Reporter of the Year once by...
JoeOtterbein
Jul 2020
#66
This is a poorly written article designed to create an impression that there will be a floor fight
Gothmog
Jul 2020
#82
It COULD be used as cover by Biden, if he's open to moving to M4A as a result of COVID.
BComplex
Jul 2020
#80
Biden will not move to M4A, he's firmly in support of the ACA, something he worked hard to get...
George II
Jul 2020
#110
We won't get MFA through the house or the Senate most likely...no point in wasting time
Demsrule86
Jul 2020
#186
I was a delegate to the 2016 convention and we were prepared for up to 4 floor votes
Gothmog
Jul 2020
#10
More than ever we need party unity but don't put too much into this news, a negotiation over
yaesu
Jul 2020
#11
It already happened in one of Biden's task forces that were represented equally by Biden and Sanders
George II
Jul 2020
#104
HRC campaigned on the public option in 2008 and on "Medicare for More" in 2016.
lapucelle
Jul 2020
#207
Thanks. I might show my wife, but this could be like putting salt in the wound.
CaptYossarian
Jul 2020
#209
Imagine how far along we would be on environmental issues if Al Gore had won in 2000.
lapucelle
Jul 2020
#210
My high school daughter is exercising the Safer at Home option this year.
CaptYossarian
Jul 2020
#211
Oh good fucking grief! And, ugh! It's that Otterbein gal at Politico, too. Surprise, surprise!
NurseJackie
Jul 2020
#21
Where does the number 75% come from regarding M4A? I don't think that's correct.
George II
Jul 2020
#111
You realize that support for a candidate is different than support for one particular policy right?
LiberalLovinLug
Jul 2020
#145
"Single payer" is NOT "Medicare for All", that's exactly the point I'm making. 75% of Democrats....
George II
Jul 2020
#152
One of your links has a photo of Saikat Chakrabarti wearing his tee shirt with the Nazi
lapucelle
Jul 2020
#175
75% of the 55% who support M4A is not the same thing as 75% of all Democrats.
lapucelle
Jul 2020
#142
Yes - 75% of 55% is only 41%. But you and I and others are only guessing about what the 75%....
George II
Jul 2020
#143
Obviously an intentional omission because it didn't support the argument being made.
NurseJackie
Jul 2020
#171
And amazingly silent. Facts are a powerful way to silence the lies and misinformation.
NurseJackie
Jul 2020
#181
Sorry your numbers are BS or voters would have chosen a different candidate in the primary...
Demsrule86
Jul 2020
#187
Actually, no. Single payer is but one of differeng UHC methods among countries who have UHC.
ehrnst
Jul 2020
#162
HRC's plan called for achieving the $15/hr minimum wage in steps (i.e. incrementally)
lapucelle
Jul 2020
#129
So tired of this "Democrats aren't progressive" crap, that they have to dragged to the Left,
betsuni
Jul 2020
#233
There were several task forces created to work out the details of the platform. Both Sanders....
George II
Jul 2020
#64
If it was a "consensus" with Sanders then at least for a change you can't blame him right?
LiberalLovinLug
Jul 2020
#74
No one is blaming him for the platform, I didn't see that or say that. But he could caucus....
George II
Jul 2020
#75
Will you take back your claim that the majority of Americans do not support M4A?
LiberalLovinLug
Jul 2020
#76
It's sad that "grassroots" has now become code for anti-establishment, with the
betsuni
Jul 2020
#197
Perfect description and analysis. We've also seen other examples of it in...
NurseJackie
Jul 2020
#198
No they don't. Where did the premise that a "majority" of Americans want "M4A" come from?
George II
Jul 2020
#103
No dates or links to those polls. Most, if not all, ask respondents about "Universal Health Care"..
George II
Jul 2020
#139
Yes, "include" but not "exclusive". It's like cars - if someone says "I like the 4-door Accord"....
George II
Jul 2020
#248
Who conducted these exit polls and what was the question asked? I've seen polls on this....
George II
Jul 2020
#114
No, John Dingell Sr., Jr., Debbie Dingell, and others over the last 7 decades...
George II
Jul 2020
#140
I support some form of single payer universal health coverage. But now is not the time for that
totodeinhere
Jul 2020
#30
Fortunately, Bernie Sanders has been working day and night to get his supporters in Biden's corner
brooklynite
Jul 2020
#34
I don't know. I hope so. But I just don't know what he's been doing in that regard, and to that end.
NurseJackie
Jul 2020
#45
Oh 4 goodness sake, we have bigger problems with election interference and race issues to deal with
onetexan
Jul 2020
#35
Now is not the time for this rather do it after the election when we have a majority in the
cstanleytech
Jul 2020
#39
But does he think that will be what is best for him and his political ambitions?
ehrnst
Jul 2020
#179
If you check out Holly's twitter feed you will find she can defend herself quite well.
JoeOtterbein
Jul 2020
#93
We ALL have the goal of Universal Healthcare, but that can't be said of "Medicare for All"....
George II
Jul 2020
#107
I dig how you move the goalposts without ever addressing the premise. Your're SuGrIng!!!
LanternWaste
Jul 2020
#184
This must be rather embarrassing for Sanders. He's a politician, not a babysitter!
betsuni
Jul 2020
#113
We pay about $130 per month each and about $30 per month each for the supplemental plan...
George II
Jul 2020
#117
This is pathetic. Are we really that fragile that we can't have a few hundred delegates
Steelrolled
Jul 2020
#124
The compromise has already been reached, with equal input from Sanders delegates, and Sanders....
George II
Jul 2020
#136
Nina Turner is a Stein voter and I have trouble caring about her opinions on anything
Gothmog
Jul 2020
#178
omg, that is such a disgusting thing to say. It is interesting to see how some
R B Garr
Jul 2020
#188
Senator Nina Turner appears to keep her status as a superdelegate and DNC member quiet.
lapucelle
Jul 2020
#241
exactly. We're fighting for the country & these Bernie Bros are being selfish & petty
onetexan
Jul 2020
#192
Excuse me, it was "We want the world and we want it now!", basically the same thing....
George II
Jul 2020
#215
"I want it all and I want it now!" Queen song, written by Brian May.
Manifestor_of_Light
Jul 2020
#230
Ah, thanks! I knew I'd heard it and conflated that with The Doors' song. That was many years ago.
George II
Jul 2020
#231
Well OK, I just hope they understand that another 4 yr of repub rule equals medicare for NOBODY nt
Kashkakat v.2.0
Jul 2020
#227