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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders delegates mount convention rebellion over 'Medicare for All' [View all]Demsrule86
(68,593 posts)186. We won't get MFA through the house or the Senate most likely...no point in wasting time
we don't have...fix the ACA and get a public option ...add some price controls too. We will end up with universal coverage...and remember only a few countries have Government based healthcare.
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Bernie Sanders delegates mount convention rebellion over 'Medicare for All' [View all]
George II
Jul 2020
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I have been going to conventions for years, that was the most shameful thing I have ever seen.
redstatebluegirl
Jul 2020
#3
No, that wasn't single payer he was talking about. It was Universal Health Care.
ehrnst
Jul 2020
#157
Sure, if you say so. But I try not to defeat myself before starting a fight. If you say
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2020
#159
Why so we can lose the House again...we got no policy from eight years of Pres. Obama
Demsrule86
Jul 2020
#185
"going to have win some hearts and minds" -- that is always needed to make progress. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2020
#191
It's another garbage "Holly Otterbein" piece. Good grief she's a piece of work, ain't she?
NurseJackie
Jul 2020
#22
You can disagree with the article and her ideas without trashing a member's family.
vsrazdem
Jul 2020
#50
You read a lot more in there than Nurse wrote. Holly isn't among the best journalists on the street.
marble falls
Jul 2020
#54
She has a platform. If she can write the shit she writes, she can be criticized for it.
MrsCoffee
Jul 2020
#199
Holly is well compensated and she was even named the Reporter of the Year once by...
JoeOtterbein
Jul 2020
#66
This is a poorly written article designed to create an impression that there will be a floor fight
Gothmog
Jul 2020
#82
It COULD be used as cover by Biden, if he's open to moving to M4A as a result of COVID.
BComplex
Jul 2020
#80
Biden will not move to M4A, he's firmly in support of the ACA, something he worked hard to get...
George II
Jul 2020
#110
We won't get MFA through the house or the Senate most likely...no point in wasting time
Demsrule86
Jul 2020
#186
I was a delegate to the 2016 convention and we were prepared for up to 4 floor votes
Gothmog
Jul 2020
#10
More than ever we need party unity but don't put too much into this news, a negotiation over
yaesu
Jul 2020
#11
It already happened in one of Biden's task forces that were represented equally by Biden and Sanders
George II
Jul 2020
#104
HRC campaigned on the public option in 2008 and on "Medicare for More" in 2016.
lapucelle
Jul 2020
#207
Thanks. I might show my wife, but this could be like putting salt in the wound.
CaptYossarian
Jul 2020
#209
Imagine how far along we would be on environmental issues if Al Gore had won in 2000.
lapucelle
Jul 2020
#210
My high school daughter is exercising the Safer at Home option this year.
CaptYossarian
Jul 2020
#211
Oh good fucking grief! And, ugh! It's that Otterbein gal at Politico, too. Surprise, surprise!
NurseJackie
Jul 2020
#21
Where does the number 75% come from regarding M4A? I don't think that's correct.
George II
Jul 2020
#111
You realize that support for a candidate is different than support for one particular policy right?
LiberalLovinLug
Jul 2020
#145
"Single payer" is NOT "Medicare for All", that's exactly the point I'm making. 75% of Democrats....
George II
Jul 2020
#152
One of your links has a photo of Saikat Chakrabarti wearing his tee shirt with the Nazi
lapucelle
Jul 2020
#175
75% of the 55% who support M4A is not the same thing as 75% of all Democrats.
lapucelle
Jul 2020
#142
Yes - 75% of 55% is only 41%. But you and I and others are only guessing about what the 75%....
George II
Jul 2020
#143
Obviously an intentional omission because it didn't support the argument being made.
NurseJackie
Jul 2020
#171
And amazingly silent. Facts are a powerful way to silence the lies and misinformation.
NurseJackie
Jul 2020
#181
Sorry your numbers are BS or voters would have chosen a different candidate in the primary...
Demsrule86
Jul 2020
#187
Actually, no. Single payer is but one of differeng UHC methods among countries who have UHC.
ehrnst
Jul 2020
#162
HRC's plan called for achieving the $15/hr minimum wage in steps (i.e. incrementally)
lapucelle
Jul 2020
#129
So tired of this "Democrats aren't progressive" crap, that they have to dragged to the Left,
betsuni
Jul 2020
#233
There were several task forces created to work out the details of the platform. Both Sanders....
George II
Jul 2020
#64
If it was a "consensus" with Sanders then at least for a change you can't blame him right?
LiberalLovinLug
Jul 2020
#74
No one is blaming him for the platform, I didn't see that or say that. But he could caucus....
George II
Jul 2020
#75
Will you take back your claim that the majority of Americans do not support M4A?
LiberalLovinLug
Jul 2020
#76
It's sad that "grassroots" has now become code for anti-establishment, with the
betsuni
Jul 2020
#197
Perfect description and analysis. We've also seen other examples of it in...
NurseJackie
Jul 2020
#198
No they don't. Where did the premise that a "majority" of Americans want "M4A" come from?
George II
Jul 2020
#103
No dates or links to those polls. Most, if not all, ask respondents about "Universal Health Care"..
George II
Jul 2020
#139
Yes, "include" but not "exclusive". It's like cars - if someone says "I like the 4-door Accord"....
George II
Jul 2020
#248
Who conducted these exit polls and what was the question asked? I've seen polls on this....
George II
Jul 2020
#114
No, John Dingell Sr., Jr., Debbie Dingell, and others over the last 7 decades...
George II
Jul 2020
#140
I support some form of single payer universal health coverage. But now is not the time for that
totodeinhere
Jul 2020
#30
Fortunately, Bernie Sanders has been working day and night to get his supporters in Biden's corner
brooklynite
Jul 2020
#34
I don't know. I hope so. But I just don't know what he's been doing in that regard, and to that end.
NurseJackie
Jul 2020
#45
Oh 4 goodness sake, we have bigger problems with election interference and race issues to deal with
onetexan
Jul 2020
#35
Now is not the time for this rather do it after the election when we have a majority in the
cstanleytech
Jul 2020
#39
But does he think that will be what is best for him and his political ambitions?
ehrnst
Jul 2020
#179
If you check out Holly's twitter feed you will find she can defend herself quite well.
JoeOtterbein
Jul 2020
#93
We ALL have the goal of Universal Healthcare, but that can't be said of "Medicare for All"....
George II
Jul 2020
#107
I dig how you move the goalposts without ever addressing the premise. Your're SuGrIng!!!
LanternWaste
Jul 2020
#184
This must be rather embarrassing for Sanders. He's a politician, not a babysitter!
betsuni
Jul 2020
#113
We pay about $130 per month each and about $30 per month each for the supplemental plan...
George II
Jul 2020
#117
This is pathetic. Are we really that fragile that we can't have a few hundred delegates
Steelrolled
Jul 2020
#124
The compromise has already been reached, with equal input from Sanders delegates, and Sanders....
George II
Jul 2020
#136
Nina Turner is a Stein voter and I have trouble caring about her opinions on anything
Gothmog
Jul 2020
#178
omg, that is such a disgusting thing to say. It is interesting to see how some
R B Garr
Jul 2020
#188
Senator Nina Turner appears to keep her status as a superdelegate and DNC member quiet.
lapucelle
Jul 2020
#241
exactly. We're fighting for the country & these Bernie Bros are being selfish & petty
onetexan
Jul 2020
#192
Excuse me, it was "We want the world and we want it now!", basically the same thing....
George II
Jul 2020
#215
"I want it all and I want it now!" Queen song, written by Brian May.
Manifestor_of_Light
Jul 2020
#230
Ah, thanks! I knew I'd heard it and conflated that with The Doors' song. That was many years ago.
George II
Jul 2020
#231
Well OK, I just hope they understand that another 4 yr of repub rule equals medicare for NOBODY nt
Kashkakat v.2.0
Jul 2020
#227