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George II

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Mon Jul 27, 2020, 01:15 PM Jul 2020

Bernie Sanders delegates mount convention rebellion over 'Medicare for All' [View all]

Source: Politico

A revolt is brewing among Bernie Sanders delegates three weeks from the Democratic National Convention.

More than 360 delegates, most of whom back Sanders, have signed on to a pledge to vote against the Democratic Party’s platform if it does not include support for "Medicare for All," the petition’s organizers told POLITICO. They argue that single-payer health care is an urgent priority amid a worldwide pandemic and the biggest unemployment crisis since the Great Depression.

“This pandemic has shown us that our private health insurance system does not work for the American people. Millions of people have lost their jobs and their health care at the same time,” said Judith Whitmer, a Sanders delegate and chair of the convention’s Nevada delegation who helped spearhead the pledge. “There’s people leaving the hospital now with millions of dollars in medical bills. What are we going to do about that?”


The warning is all but certain to set up a clash between Sanders’ most dedicated supporters and presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden, who opposes Medicare for All, at a time when the party is seeking to demonstrate unity ahead of its August convention. Though the petition signers have little chance of revising the platform to include Medicare for All support, they do have the numbers to draw attention to their protest and cause.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/bernie-supporters-medicare-single-payer-381972



Yogi Berra had a saying about this.
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Well, they don't have John Lewis to boo this time, swag Jul 2020 #1
I have been going to conventions for years, that was the most shameful thing I have ever seen. redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #3
That was a planned stunt Gothmog Jul 2020 #12
I wonder how many people left the party because of that "stunt". redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #14
Just like in Atlanta the way the "Occupy" idiots treated him. oldsoftie Jul 2020 #23
I expect there will be a few who boo and jeer as he's lying in state. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #72
Who said anything about booing? democrattotheend Jul 2020 #161
Not again. redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #2
You're so right. What don't these people get that we need to win... brush Jul 2020 #13
Yes PatSeg Jul 2020 #48
You are Rebl2 Jul 2020 #88
Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #32
Trump ran on single payer in the Republican primary JonLP24 Jul 2020 #154
No, that wasn't single payer he was talking about. It was Universal Health Care. ehrnst Jul 2020 #157
DAMMITTTTT!! Bayard Jul 2020 #4
Yes, Unity now, then hold Biden's feet to the fire in 2021. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #6
Hold his feet to the fire for what? ehrnst Jul 2020 #156
Sure, if you say so. But I try not to defeat myself before starting a fight. If you say Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #159
I'm pointing out the reality of our SCOTUS. ehrnst Jul 2020 #164
Why so we can lose the House again...we got no policy from eight years of Pres. Obama Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #185
"going to have win some hearts and minds" -- that is always needed to make progress. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #191
I heartily agree. zanana1 Jul 2020 #246
Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Politicub Jul 2020 #5
360 is not enough to stop joe from being nominated. drray23 Jul 2020 #7
I am getting irked at Politico Gothmog Jul 2020 #20
It's another garbage "Holly Otterbein" piece. Good grief she's a piece of work, ain't she? NurseJackie Jul 2020 #22
This is a poorly written article Gothmog Jul 2020 #25
Why do you have to trash a fellow DU's kid. Sad. vsrazdem Jul 2020 #47
Irrelevant. She's a crappy journalist. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #49
You can disagree with the article and her ideas without trashing a member's family. vsrazdem Jul 2020 #50
You read a lot more in there than Nurse wrote. Holly isn't among the best journalists on the street. marble falls Jul 2020 #54
Cry me a river. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #55
She has a platform. If she can write the shit she writes, she can be criticized for it. MrsCoffee Jul 2020 #199
Good point. zanana1 Jul 2020 #247
Holly is well compensated and she was even named the Reporter of the Year once by... JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 #66
Your Welcome. I just don't understand why people have to be so mean. vsrazdem Jul 2020 #112
My youngest daughter calls it... JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 #122
So criticism of journalists is being jealous? Of what? betsuni Jul 2020 #196
This is a poorly written article designed to create an impression that there will be a floor fight Gothmog Jul 2020 #82
Some people get noticed by Fox News by writing such anti-Democratic pieces DenverJared Jul 2020 #98
Apparently she's an "award winning journalist". NurseJackie Jul 2020 #100
A Sanders Institute gold medal? DenverJared Jul 2020 #101
It's no Pulitzer or Peabody award, I can assure you of that. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #106
"Fragile, it must be Italian"....one of my favorite scenes: George II Jul 2020 #109
What was in the box? Mosby Jul 2020 #153
A "major award" - the leg lamp that Jackie posted. George II Jul 2020 #155
I got irked at Politico a long time ago wnylib Jul 2020 #37
I am always irked with Politico!! Such pot stirring Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #51
Yes. Politico has really been rubbing me the wrong way lately.... FM123 Jul 2020 #69
Thanks for that. People posting Politico crap keep tricking me here. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #92
Of course they are. Tech Jul 2020 #8
Less than 10% of the 3700 delegates, and they're still backing Biden pnwmom Jul 2020 #9
It is 360 delegates out of almost 4,000 delegates Gothmog Jul 2020 #15
They don't care. OnDoutside Jul 2020 #18
But it creates division and could cause wnylib Jul 2020 #40
If they drop out of voting, then that was their plan all along Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #52
+++, attacking Republicans instead of Democrats R B Garr Jul 2020 #62
It COULD be used as cover by Biden, if he's open to moving to M4A as a result of COVID. BComplex Jul 2020 #80
Biden will not move to M4A, he's firmly in support of the ACA, something he worked hard to get... George II Jul 2020 #110
We won't get MFA through the house or the Senate most likely...no point in wasting time Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #186
I was a delegate to the 2016 convention and we were prepared for up to 4 floor votes Gothmog Jul 2020 #10
Oh yes PatSeg Jul 2020 #53
More than ever we need party unity but don't put too much into this news, a negotiation over yaesu Jul 2020 #11
Well well, a voice of reason. Thank you ... it is Politico afterall. KPN Jul 2020 #44
It already happened in one of Biden's task forces that were represented equally by Biden and Sanders George II Jul 2020 #104
I guess that wasn't enough for some, and hence the digging in of heels. ehrnst Jul 2020 #165
Oy. Not again! SunSeeker Jul 2020 #16
Teruo Nakamura nods in approval Jose Garcia Jul 2020 #17
How ridiculous! CaptYossarian Jul 2020 #19
The 2016 Democratic platform called for a Medicare opt-in at age 55, lapucelle Jul 2020 #130
I seem to remember the 55 clause as a compromise. CaptYossarian Jul 2020 #205
HRC campaigned on the public option in 2008 and on "Medicare for More" in 2016. lapucelle Jul 2020 #207
Thanks. I might show my wife, but this could be like putting salt in the wound. CaptYossarian Jul 2020 #209
Imagine how far along we would be on environmental issues if Al Gore had won in 2000. lapucelle Jul 2020 #210
My high school daughter is exercising the Safer at Home option this year. CaptYossarian Jul 2020 #211
Oh good fucking grief! And, ugh! It's that Otterbein gal at Politico, too. Surprise, surprise! NurseJackie Jul 2020 #21
Quite, Politico Loves To Ding The Dems Me. Jul 2020 #27
Here's The Answer To My Question Me. Jul 2020 #29
I'm so tired of Bernie and his narrow minded followers calguy Jul 2020 #31
I do not know... NurseJackie Jul 2020 #38
I get it. There was definitely some foul play going on here. Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #59
Oooh, the party's platform frazzled Jul 2020 #24
Yup!! Let them throw "virtual" chairs Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #60
I suppose they could frazzled Jul 2020 #70
Ha! NurseJackie Jul 2020 #176
Who Didn't See This Coming? Me. Jul 2020 #26
As narrow as the vote was in crucial swing states calguy Jul 2020 #33
Agreed Me. Jul 2020 #43
That Venn diagram almost totally overlapped. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #115
There is no "right" time. Bravo I say!!!! LiberalLovinLug Jul 2020 #28
Oh good lord! ROFL ROFL NurseJackie Jul 2020 #41
Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #58
We had a primary. People voted. Joe Biden is the winner. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #61
The majority need to "get over it"? LiberalLovinLug Jul 2020 #63
Biden is the winner. Move! Get out of the way. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #65
Biden was in the majority Gothmog Jul 2020 #81
"The majority of the party does not back your plan" LiberalLovinLug Jul 2020 #87
This plan was rejected by Democratic primary voters Gothmog Jul 2020 #90
You are wrong on the facts. LiberalLovinLug Jul 2020 #94
You are wrong on the facts Gothmog Jul 2020 #96
Where does the number 75% come from regarding M4A? I don't think that's correct. George II Jul 2020 #111
Ah... and there it is. The blackmail threat. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #128
Since you didn't respond regarding the 75% number, here is the fact: George II Jul 2020 #134
You realize that support for a candidate is different than support for one particular policy right? LiberalLovinLug Jul 2020 #145
Would you be saying that if Sanders had won the nomination? ehrnst Jul 2020 #148
"Single payer" is NOT "Medicare for All", that's exactly the point I'm making. 75% of Democrats.... George II Jul 2020 #152
One of your links has a photo of Saikat Chakrabarti wearing his tee shirt with the Nazi lapucelle Jul 2020 #175
The word "sabotage" comes to mind... NurseJackie Jul 2020 #180
75% of the 55% who support M4A is not the same thing as 75% of all Democrats. lapucelle Jul 2020 #142
Yes - 75% of 55% is only 41%. But you and I and others are only guessing about what the 75%.... George II Jul 2020 #143
No, 40% is not 75%.... Here are the facts: ehrnst Jul 2020 #144
BOOM! nt TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #167
Left that slide out of his post quoting the poll. ehrnst Jul 2020 #169
Obviously an intentional omission because it didn't support the argument being made. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #171
Actually it looks like you're "Wrong on the facts".. Cha Jul 2020 #174
And amazingly silent. Facts are a powerful way to silence the lies and misinformation. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #181
Yes! we Deal in FACTS ONLY! Other scenarios Not allowed. Cha Jul 2020 #182
Hey, Brah... where you at? NurseJackie Jul 2020 #183
Sorry your numbers are BS or voters would have chosen a different candidate in the primary... Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #187
Actually, no. Single payer is but one of differeng UHC methods among countries who have UHC. ehrnst Jul 2020 #162
HRC's plan called for achieving the $15/hr minimum wage in steps (i.e. incrementally) lapucelle Jul 2020 #129
How soon people forget... ehrnst Jul 2020 #163
You don't seem clear on what the defintion of "majority" is. ehrnst Jul 2020 #146
Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #160
"Even Hillary." CBHagman Jul 2020 #232
So tired of this "Democrats aren't progressive" crap, that they have to dragged to the Left, betsuni Jul 2020 #233
You got that right. CBHagman Aug 2020 #249
There were several task forces created to work out the details of the platform. Both Sanders.... George II Jul 2020 #64
Obviously they did not come to a consenus. LiberalLovinLug Jul 2020 #67
The end product WAS a consensus of those tasked to create the platform. George II Jul 2020 #71
If it was a "consensus" with Sanders then at least for a change you can't blame him right? LiberalLovinLug Jul 2020 #74
No one is blaming him for the platform, I didn't see that or say that. But he could caucus.... George II Jul 2020 #75
Will you take back your claim that the majority of Americans do not support M4A? LiberalLovinLug Jul 2020 #76
No, because that "claim" is correct. George II Jul 2020 #78
Basically, because our candidate would then lose. However, reACTIONary Jul 2020 #121
Why? Gothmog Jul 2020 #127
40% is not a Majority. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2020 #149
Why take back a claim based in fact? ehrnst Jul 2020 #151
The primary is over. It's over. Move on. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #77
You missed this slide: ehrnst Jul 2020 #150
Good find! Thank you! It's also a good lesson... NurseJackie Jul 2020 #158
A 2% increase in the poll is essentially statistical noise TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #193
In the real world primary voters came to a consensus Gothmog Jul 2020 #126
What are "grassroots Democrats"? betsuni Jul 2020 #132
It's self-flattering code for "extreme fringe" and others... NurseJackie Jul 2020 #195
It's sad that "grassroots" has now become code for anti-establishment, with the betsuni Jul 2020 #197
Perfect description and analysis. We've also seen other examples of it in... NurseJackie Jul 2020 #198
So much bullshit. betsuni Jul 2020 #200
There are exceptions to this one... NurseJackie Jul 2020 #201
Yes. betsuni Jul 2020 #202
Good points! JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 #73
Majority of the American people zentrum Jul 2020 #97
No they don't. Where did the premise that a "majority" of Americans want "M4A" come from? George II Jul 2020 #103
Covid-19 makes people feel even more urgent zentrum Jul 2020 #137
No dates or links to those polls. Most, if not all, ask respondents about "Universal Health Care".. George II Jul 2020 #139
What word splicing. zentrum Jul 2020 #212
I'll start and end with the headline in your first link: George II Jul 2020 #214
Hahaha. Those words include zentrum Jul 2020 #243
Yes, "include" but not "exclusive". It's like cars - if someone says "I like the 4-door Accord".... George II Jul 2020 #248
People like M4A as a concept until they see the details. DenverJared Jul 2020 #99
Who conducted these exit polls and what was the question asked? I've seen polls on this.... George II Jul 2020 #114
That's fantastic. This zentrum Jul 2020 #138
No, John Dingell Sr., Jr., Debbie Dingell, and others over the last 7 decades... George II Jul 2020 #140
A majority of Democrats do not support this plan in the real world Gothmog Jul 2020 #141
I support some form of single payer universal health coverage. But now is not the time for that totodeinhere Jul 2020 #30
I agree. Nitram Jul 2020 #79
Fortunately, Bernie Sanders has been working day and night to get his supporters in Biden's corner brooklynite Jul 2020 #34
I don't know. I hope so. But I just don't know what he's been doing in that regard, and to that end. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #45
Not Rebl2 Jul 2020 #91
Oh 4 goodness sake, we have bigger problems with election interference and race issues to deal with onetexan Jul 2020 #35
the extremist always throw temper tantrums beachbumbob Jul 2020 #36
Now is not the time for this rather do it after the election when we have a majority in the cstanleytech Jul 2020 #39
Sanders needs to put a stop to this immediately relayerbob Jul 2020 #42
It serves no good purpose at all... NurseJackie Jul 2020 #46
Agreed relayerbob Jul 2020 #57
sanders can end this by removing and replacing these delegates Gothmog Jul 2020 #83
Is that possible after those elections were held? davsand Jul 2020 #86
sanders has complete power to remove his own delegate Gothmog Jul 2020 #89
But does he think that will be what is best for him and his political ambitions? ehrnst Jul 2020 #179
As if. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2020 #177
Those people are revolting against the voice of the Democratic party. Progressive dog Jul 2020 #56
Thanks for posting and helping get this report on Politico's... JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 #68
You do realize that this premise of this article is totally silly and wrong Gothmog Jul 2020 #85
If you check out Holly's twitter feed you will find she can defend herself quite well. JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 #93
Again this premise of this article is stupid Gothmog Jul 2020 #105
We ALL have the goal of Universal Healthcare, but that can't be said of "Medicare for All".... George II Jul 2020 #107
I really hope we push UH hard this election. JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 #123
This article has dropped like a rock on the Politico website Gothmog Jul 2020 #125
I dig how you move the goalposts without ever addressing the premise. Your're SuGrIng!!! LanternWaste Jul 2020 #184
+1000. It is Politico, after all. ehrnst Jul 2020 #166
I thought the convention is where you are supposed to sort out the platform. davsand Jul 2020 #84
I hope and pray these folks can prioritize right away BadGimp Jul 2020 #95
Bernie needs to put a stop to this immediately. DenverJared Jul 2020 #102
Good one! NurseJackie Jul 2020 #108
I mean ... he can't control what Nina and Brihana say but DenverJared Jul 2020 #203
I won't be holding my breath. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #206
Agreed Gothmog Jul 2020 #238
It needs to come from Bernie himself DenverJared Jul 2020 #242
I agree with you Gothmog Jul 2020 #244
+1 betsuni Jul 2020 #245
This must be rather embarrassing for Sanders. He's a politician, not a babysitter! betsuni Jul 2020 #113
You Know, I Think MOst Peopel Think Medicare Is Free Me. Jul 2020 #116
We pay about $130 per month each and about $30 per month each for the supplemental plan... George II Jul 2020 #117
I Think THese People Got A Pie In The Sky Idea About This Me. Jul 2020 #118
I missed the Sanders segment. Was he in Washington? George II Jul 2020 #119
Don't Know Me. Jul 2020 #120
This is pathetic. Are we really that fragile that we can't have a few hundred delegates Steelrolled Jul 2020 #124
This. (nt) NeoGreen Jul 2020 #133
Its not the voting I am concerned about.. honest.abe Jul 2020 #135
The compromise has already been reached, with equal input from Sanders delegates, and Sanders.... George II Jul 2020 #136
It's not about fragility. It's about the amount of attention they want, and ehrnst Jul 2020 #147
I wonder if super-delegate Senator Nina Turner is one of the 360. N/T lapucelle Jul 2020 #131
Is that the same Nina Turner that made this comment this week? TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #168
The full context from the Atlantic: George II Jul 2020 #170
Is she trying for a consulting gig with Trump 2020? ehrnst Jul 2020 #172
The fact that Nina Turner said that disgusts me beyond words. lapucelle Jul 2020 #173
Nina Turner is a Stein voter and I have trouble caring about her opinions on anything Gothmog Jul 2020 #178
omg, that is such a disgusting thing to say. It is interesting to see how some R B Garr Jul 2020 #188
Nina "They tried to seduce us with donuts and water" Turner. betsuni Jul 2020 #190
Is turner a super delegate? Gothmog Jul 2020 #237
Yes, Senator Nina Turner is a superdelegate. lapucelle Jul 2020 #239
That was a major mistake Gothmog Jul 2020 #240
Senator Nina Turner appears to keep her status as a superdelegate and DNC member quiet. lapucelle Jul 2020 #241
Know what battles to pick and when to pick them Joinfortmill Jul 2020 #189
exactly. We're fighting for the country & these Bernie Bros are being selfish & petty onetexan Jul 2020 #192
Americans are experiencing a big dose of reality DeminPennswoods Jul 2020 #194
"Hey, we lost, but we still want our way!!" NT Happy Hoosier Jul 2020 #204
Wasn't there a Doors song that went "we want it all and we want it now!"? George II Jul 2020 #208
No melman Jul 2020 #213
Excuse me, it was "We want the world and we want it now!", basically the same thing.... George II Jul 2020 #215
No melman Jul 2020 #216
No. George II Jul 2020 #217
Oh melman Jul 2020 #218
I don't think either "No" or "Okay" can be key words. GeorgiaPeanut Jul 2020 #219
See post # 215 melman Jul 2020 #220
I don't know......... George II Jul 2020 #221
Hmm.. melman Jul 2020 #222
Is that the key word, "interesting"? George II Jul 2020 #223
Hmmmm ... no key word in Post No. 215 GeorgiaPeanut Jul 2020 #224
IKR? la-trucker Jul 2020 #225
Okay melman Jul 2020 #226
Not Okay ... someone already said that is not the key word. DenverJared Jul 2020 #228
See post # 220 melman Jul 2020 #229
"I want it all and I want it now!" Queen song, written by Brian May. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2020 #230
Ah, thanks! I knew I'd heard it and conflated that with The Doors' song. That was many years ago. George II Jul 2020 #231
Yeah, we're gettin' old. Ringo is EIGHTY!! AAGGHH!! Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2020 #234
Well OK, I just hope they understand that another 4 yr of repub rule equals medicare for NOBODY nt Kashkakat v.2.0 Jul 2020 #227
Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #235
The sanders campaign is doing the right thing Gothmog Jul 2020 #236
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