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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
51. It doesn't matter whether you started the OP or not...
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 02:02 PM
Jul 2020
I didn't start the thread.
I don't care. It doesn't matter whether you started the OP or not. I was obviously responding to your post and the grudging "support" being expressed for of our party's nominee.

There has been no "constant moaning... and groaning... and whining... and griping... and belly-aching..." from me
You know perfectly well that the grudging and resentful "support" in your post is part of the ongoing chorus of groaning, whining, griping. It's not ALL you or ONLY you... but someone's participation in that kind of negativity really serves no useful purpose, does it?

Don't come after me because others have offended you. I make one post, and your tarring me with apparently a whole bunch of others.
I'm doing no such thing. I think the best advice I could give to anyone who doesn't want to be treated like the "others," (and who doesn't want to be associated with the "others'') is that they should do their level best to not behave like the others. Easy.

So, no butt hurt here. That doesn't mean I can't wish things had worked out more to my liking.
LOL. Of course there is. Anyone who's not fully on-board with Biden still has some "butt hurt" (as you say) to deal with. For those people, it's way past time to get over it and move on. It's time to stop sniping and nit-picking and fault-finding and splitting hairs. That kind of behavior does not serve our greater purpose. It only serves to denigrate and for the selfish among us, I guess it's a way to self-soothe.

Even if I accepted your characterization of that post as a pout, how on earth does such a pout in any way indicate that I would not be respectful if the shoe were on the other foot??
The negativity and grudging support being given to our party's nominee is evidence enough. I'm no fool.

Also, if things had turned out differently, you actually wouldn't need to be "respectful" or "sympathetic" because I can assure you that the Biden supporters wouldn't be having public pity-parties or showering negativity and doubt on the Democratic nominee.

I am pretty sure that there is not one person reading my post here on Democratic Underground who is the slightest bit less likely to vote for Biden because of my post.
That's weak sauce and completely irrelevant. Instead of people continually reminding everyone here how sad and disappointed they are, I wonder what they're doing in real life to get out the vote. Probably just more of the same.

I can definitely assure anyone that the sour attitude shown here isn't going to convince anyone to vote for Biden. (Can you imagine: "Vote for Biden. I have no idea why he was nominated. He wasn't as good as [Other Candidate], but we're stuck with him, so if you think about it, and if you're not busy on Election day, maybe consider voting for him."

Again, I'll repeat what I said earlier:

The overt expressions of "regret" and continued nitpicking and words of disappointment (and having to "settle'') only serve to create an atmosphere of negativity. That negativity generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

What's more important? Having one's ego continually validated and stoked... and being soothed and pitied because of their hard feelings and disappointment? OR... Is WINNING more important?

Andrew Jackson doesn't count? Woodrow Wilson doesn't count? About thirty others don't count? NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #1
Those two for damn sure... hlthe2b Jul 2020 #5
Also Teddy Roosevelt. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2020 #40
I'd say Trump is the worst since Wilson. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #52
I disagree. guillaumeb Jul 2020 #2
Thomas Jefferson was totally racist as were the other berni_mccoy Jul 2020 #3
I think he means "openly" racist nt intrepidity Jul 2020 #4
Arguing in favor of slavery doesn't count as "openly"? n/t Igel Jul 2020 #16
Still wrong Polybius Jul 2020 #17
Owning slaves isn't being "openly" racist? Dial H For Hero Jul 2020 #39
The replies in the thread are a perfect example of why we lose texasleo Jul 2020 #6
No. He's wrong. I get to say so. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #9
They did Soxfan58 Jul 2020 #12
That's the biggest hole in my record collection. I never owned a copy of "Pet Sounds." mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #15
You mean we are supposed to just go along with obvious untruths? Steelrolled Jul 2020 #13
this llashram Jul 2020 #19
Joe misspoke. The truth that MF45 is America's most racist president in 100 years needs to be told. Eugene Jul 2020 #22
"Joe misspoke" was the known price of nominating him. thesquanderer Jul 2020 #31
Aw. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #46
It's probably the same as you would have felt if some of the other candidates had won. thesquanderer Jul 2020 #48
I think that now is the time for mature adults to set aside their hurt feelings. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #49
I didn't start the thread. Others complained about Biden's sloppy point here... thesquanderer Jul 2020 #50
It doesn't matter whether you started the OP or not... NurseJackie Jul 2020 #51
re: "You know perfectly well that...your post is part of the ongoing chorus" thesquanderer Jul 2020 #53
Why contribute to the negativity? Why keep expressing doubts and misgivings? NurseJackie Jul 2020 #54
I did not call you a name. thesquanderer Jul 2020 #55
Yes you did. Stop playing games. NurseJackie Jul 2020 #56
Exactly. I am sure he is referring to recent presidents, but regardless, the point is he is calling still_one Jul 2020 #25
I don't think so. The truth should never be a losing strategy. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2020 #32
This is why Joe needs a Minority, female VP AllTooEasy Jul 2020 #37
How does a minority female candidate prevent this from happening? rpannier Jul 2020 #43
Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #7
Biden is just wrong caraher Jul 2020 #8
Woodrow Wilson hosted a screening of Birth of the Nation in the WH. Bleacher Creature Jul 2020 #10
No, I don't think he's even the first since the Civil War. totodeinhere Jul 2020 #30
Good point. Bleacher Creature Jul 2020 #33
Welp, you're wrong this time, Joe. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #11
He's far, far from the first Polybius Jul 2020 #14
tRumps mentor, mr $20 bill Andrew Jackson, was a big time racist thug. nt yaesu Jul 2020 #18
Maybe the first this past decade... regnaD kciN Jul 2020 #20
I think he is meaning openly racist in a closed racist society. OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2020 #21
If he meant that he should have said that. But that's not what he said. totodeinhere Jul 2020 #29
Agreed rpannier Jul 2020 #44
Actually there have been plenty of racist presidents in office. cstanleytech Jul 2020 #23
Trump will say he's the greatest racist out of all of the racist presidents. Politicub Jul 2020 #24
Bull LiberalArkie Jul 2020 #26
I think Joe will take a lot of heat for that comment. totodeinhere Jul 2020 #27
LOL Skittles Jul 2020 #28
i'll let the racist POS defend himself. uncle ray Jul 2020 #34
No telling what Trump might say, since he's so stupid. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #38
Nixon and Reagan were both racists. Sloumeau Jul 2020 #35
Let 45 try to correct him. truthisfreedom Jul 2020 #36
I guess if you judge on a curve and to match the overall state of society at the time, hes up there. Gore1FL Jul 2020 #41
Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #42
TOTALLY Wrong! nt Raine Jul 2020 #45
I love it! earthside Jul 2020 #47
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