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CaptainTruth

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19. It seems like most folks are missing a very important aspect of one of these cases...
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 03:15 PM
Jul 2020

...the one concerning subpoenas to Mazars & Deutsche Bank et al.

That case is not about a president defying a congressional subpoena, SCOTUS already unanimously ruled in 1973 that the president (Nixon) has to comply with congressional subpoenas (& turn over the tapes).

That case is about congressional subpoenas going to 3rd parties (Mazars, Deutsche Bank, etc) & POTUS stepping in & trying to prevent 3rd parties from complying with those subpoenas.

To me that makes that case a VERY different animal, because if SCOTUS rules POTUS has the power to stop 3rd parties from complying with subpoenas, then POTUS can use that power to hide his own crimes, or the crimes of those in his administration, or family, or friends.

For example, say the president's brother shoots & kills someone. There are several witnesses, but the key piece of evidence is a convenience store surveillance video recording that clearly captured it all. Prosecutors subpoena the video recording. Does POTUS have the power to step in & prevent the convienence store (a 3rd party) from complying with the subpoena, in an effort to save his brother & his own reputation (POTUS desperately doesn't want the stigma of having a brother that's a convicted murderer)?

Yes, I know there are key differences between the actual case & my example, I chose it specifically to illustrate how dangerous it would be to give POTUS broad powers to block 3rd party subpoenas.

Why would the SCOTUS issue a ruling on birth control medication in the ACA if they intend to KILL IT usaf-vet Jul 2020 #1
Because there was a case, and they have to issue a ruling Miguelito Loveless Jul 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author usaf-vet Jul 2020 #14
The SCOTUS ACA case is scheduled for oral arguments in the fall term. WestMichRad Jul 2020 #22
Maybe Bev54 Jul 2020 #2
So,Roberts is protection his Pal Donnie once again. Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #3
No way they will force release of his tax returns bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #4
Yup! Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #5
Congress DID pass a law in the 1920s to rsdsharp Jul 2020 #6
That's what i don't understand about this case Bayard Jul 2020 #16
It's possible, but this is just about the most rsdsharp Jul 2020 #17
Yup he will pass the buck once again in order to protect Trump. cstanleytech Jul 2020 #7
That would set a precedent that could seriously limit Congressional oversight. CaptainTruth Jul 2020 #11
I wonder if Roberts and Trump will go golfing after tomorrow............... turbinetree Jul 2020 #8
Trump works very hard chriscan64 Jul 2020 #9
I would be happy for them to deny access to the records Steelrolled Jul 2020 #10
this is true - precedent setting RT Atlanta Jul 2020 #12
We have to give Biden the House and Senate. Otherwise, Russiapublicans will Benghazi him to death. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #21
I PRAY we win 5-4. We need this. Faygo Kid Jul 2020 #15
I think Roberts tries to thread the needle jcgoldie Jul 2020 #18
It seems like most folks are missing a very important aspect of one of these cases... CaptainTruth Jul 2020 #19
It's always the worst-case scenario with all things Dump. Hard to have any expectations that diva77 Jul 2020 #20
Come on, Roberts! Senor Insomne Jul 2020 #23
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