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2. Police The Police, Sir

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Sat Jun 13, 2020, 06:06 PM

Jun 2020

Chiefs who will not need to go.

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BREAKING: Atlanta police chief resigns [View all] brooklynite Jun 2020 OP

Whatever the communities need to do. Laffy Kat Jun 2020 #1

Police The Police, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2020 #2

She was one of the good ones. Just a week ago Calista241 Jun 2020 #3

yes, this article gives a bit of info about her........... riversedge Jun 2020 #14

The GBI is setting the stage to let this cop walk. I just watched the video they released tulipsandroses Jun 2020 #4

According to CNN the guy beat up the cop and had taken his taser. Calista241 Jun 2020 #5

As the mayor said JackintheGreen Jun 2020 #8

He was armed. Suppose he gets away, and car jacks someone. Calista241 Jun 2020 #10

Lets stick to the facts. tulipsandroses Jun 2020 #11

So who should be responding to calls involving a drunk and possibly violent person? N/T Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #15

People that are trained and experienced with dealing mental health and substance abuse issues tulipsandroses Jun 2020 #18

EXACTLY. These cops escalated the situation. THEY brought weapons into it. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #20

So you deal with drunk people in parking lots? LeftInTX Jun 2020 #27

So if a mental health crisis team responded, there would be no tasers in the first place tulipsandroses Jun 2020 #42

From what I understand, he was driving and passed out LeftInTX Jun 2020 #56

So you do your clinical work in Wendy's parking lots in the middle of the night? Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #29

I work in an outpatient clinic currently. I previously worked inpatient detox, and inpatient tulipsandroses Jun 2020 #45

Yes, they would. After officers were on scene and had determined it was safe for them. Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #53

Crisis teams responding instead of police is already successful in some cities and countries. tulipsandroses Jun 2020 #59

Drunk. Full stop. JackintheGreen Jun 2020 #19

Good Points All. n/t MarcA Jun 2020 #21

Speaking as a former police dispatcher, mental health/crisis units don't go until a scene is secure. Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #31

You're missing the point JackintheGreen Jun 2020 #41

That is because everyone isn't armed in the UK LeftInTX Jun 2020 #57

Lots of unregulated guns in Pakistan JackintheGreen Jun 2020 #58

Unfortunately the US is a lot like Pakistan LeftInTX Jun 2020 #86

When I was a dispatcher, my department conducted a study. Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #89

People are trying to change that JonLP24 Jun 2020 #93

As a nurse, we didn't let intoxicated visitors in the hospital LeftInTX Jun 2020 #52

He allegedly was armed with a taser. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #12

And had already been fired based on the cops statement that he turn and fired the tasers. usaf-vet Jun 2020 #95

Yup. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #96

Wow Hammer, Nail perfect hit. One blow. Sunk Flush. You called it. usaf-vet Jun 2020 #97

Therein lies the rub for cops. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. N/T Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #13

They would not have been "damned" if they didn't shoot him. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #22

Do you know for a fact that they didn't talk to him and offer an alternative solution? Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #28

Why automatically assume he's a criminal? He was committing no crime when they came. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #33

I'd be curious to know who called the police and why in this instance. Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #37

The caller apparently claimed his car was blocking the drive-thru lane. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #44

I'm not justifying anything. I'm simply not willing to automatically condemn the cops. Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #54

It may be a free country for you, but black men don't seem to enjoy the same freedom. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #73

I'll wait for the full investigation to be completed. But hey, you do you! Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #75

They were fired and you're defending them JonLP24 Jun 2020 #94

I worked with violent people with developmental disabilities where police were called. pazzyanne Jun 2020 #36

That situation works fine when you know who you're dealing with and what their issue is. Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #39

HE WAS ASLEEP IN HIS CAR. He was not "acting erratically" nor "alarming" anyone. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #48

I was speaking generally rather than about this specific instance. Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #50

No you were not. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #70

I really was, but if you get your giggles assuming otherwise, have a blast. Jedi Guy Jun 2020 #76

Project much? SunSeeker Jun 2020 #77

The behavior training gives you lots of tools to use to deescalate. pazzyanne Jun 2020 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author morillon Jun 2020 #23

Nice catch. nt SunSeeker Jun 2020 #25

Until the drunk guy gets into another car and kills someone. Then the city gets sued. oldsoftie Jun 2020 #38

What car is he going to get in to? JackintheGreen Jun 2020 #46

Cop was not in fear of his life, he was pissed because he had to chase oasis Jun 2020 #9

Would have been a good time for a chokehold so he never got up off the ground, oh wait... Baclava Jun 2020 #16

The suspect was active trying to shoot the cop when he was shot. BrightKnight Jun 2020 #60

How about doing what cops usually do and call for additional units and K-9? oasis Jun 2020 #61

IDK, the suspect was aiming carefully and trying to shoot a cop. BrightKnight Jun 2020 #63

You wrote "don't try to shoot a cop with a gun". oasis Jun 2020 #66

LOL - It's not a good plan if the cop has a gun. BrightKnight Jun 2020 #69

If you honestly believe the cop thought the victim could tase oasis Jun 2020 #74

Hard to see but if the suspect was no longer trying BrightKnight Jun 2020 #82

Yet he was shot in the back. Politicub Jun 2020 #55

watch the video- nt BrightKnight Jun 2020 #67

I'm gonna tell ya a secret, Corgigal Jun 2020 #6

Hand a combative drunk over to an Uber driver? I don't think that will work. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2020 #87

and here's the end of the chase video, 28:30 mark, guy turns and fires taser then is shot Baclava Jun 2020 #7

The cops know how far their taser darts go (usually about 25"). SunSeeker Jun 2020 #68

I think the policeman could have choosen a different action rockfordfile Jun 2020 #90

I think the cop was out of line Gymbo Jun 2020 #17

Any cop who takes their weapon out of their holster today soothsayer Jun 2020 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author morillon Jun 2020 #26

Don't think shooting was necessary, but it was nothing like George Floyd. Hoyt Jun 2020 #30

STOP calling the cops over people asleep/drunk in their cars soothsayer Jun 2020 #32

+1000. Hoyt Jun 2020 #34

Medics dont go in until the scene is safe, you want social workers to get their asses beat first? Baclava Jun 2020 #35

And thats likely what would have happened in this case.. oldsoftie Jun 2020 #40

Sometimes you fight people who you fear will kill you soothsayer Jun 2020 #47

They can go together but don't let the cop soothsayer Jun 2020 #43

+1000000. American cops are instruments of death TristanIsolde Jun 2020 #85

Took cops taser and pointed at cop. Self defense BrightKnight Jun 2020 #51

Wrong JackintheGreen Jun 2020 #71

Tazing is nonlethal force. He was running away. And obviously shot the tazer to keep them back. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #72

So the cop should let himself be tased and not try BrightKnight Jun 2020 #78

No, he should have just stayed 25' back and followed the guy. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #79

The cop appeared to be in range BrightKnight Jun 2020 #81

Brooks was RUNNING AWAY as he shot the tazer, he didn't stop to aim.. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #83

Shooting him was not necessary. BrightKnight Jun 2020 #84

18 minutes from shot to ambulance leaving. scipan Jun 2020 #98

Protesters now blocking/shutting down I-75 in Atlanta, teargas and flashbangs at Wendys Baclava Jun 2020 #62

So ... the white supremacists win another round? FakeNoose Jun 2020 #64

CNN crew attacked, camera smashed, Wendy's about to burn, its on Baclava Jun 2020 #65

The CNN crewmembers themselves were not attacked, just some protestors broke their camera. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #80

Having seen and studied all the videos and reports that have been coming over the last couple of TristanIsolde Jun 2020 #88

Or maybe he was an impaired black man absolutely terrified of being put into handcuffs StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #91

I saw the body cam and it is very sad LeftInTX Jun 2020 #92

I imagine the cops felt somewhat embarrassed or humiliated. scipan Jun 2020 #99