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BumRushDaShow

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Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:34 AM Jun 2020

Unemployment rate drops to 13 percent, as the economy began to lose jobs at a slower pace [View all]

Source: Washington Post

The federal unemployment rate declined to 13.3 percent in May from 14.7 percent in April, the Department of Labor said Friday, a sign that economy is recovering more quickly than economists had projected.

The economy gained 2.5 million jobs in May, as many states and counties began to reopen with the slowing of coronavirus cases nationwide.

These figures signal the U.S. economy is beginning to bottom out. Yet the 30 million workers who are still collecting unemployment benefits is a sign of how significantly the labor market has been upended.

“The idea you would see job gains and the unemployment rate falling was not something really that people were expecting,” said Jay Shambaugh, an economist at the Brookings Institution. “But a 13.3 percent unemployment rate is higher than any point in the Great Recession. It represents massive joblessness and economic pain. You need a lot of months of gains around this level to get back to the kind of jobs totals we used to have."

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/05/may-2020-jobs-report/



Original article (note the change from "lost their jobs" to "gained jobs" in the WaPo edit) -

The federal unemployment rate declined to 13.3 percent in May, down from 14.7 percent in April, the Department of Labor said Friday.

Another 2.5 million workers lost their jobs in May from the economic havoc caused by the coronavirus, a staggering figure that could more than triple the total amount of jobs lost during the 2007 to 2009 recession.

There are hopes that May's unemployment rate is near the nadir of the crisis -- the rocky bottom below which the United States will sink no further. Yet, with some 30 million workers collecting unemployment benefits, the labor market has been upended.

Economists agree that getting back to normal will take longer and be more challenging than recessions of the past. The crisis has touched nearly every part of the economy.
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Links to earlier reports: mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #1
No banner breaking news headlines yet BumRushDaShow Jun 2020 #2
Bloomie too: 'US Jobless Rate Unexpectedly Fell In May appalachiablue Jun 2020 #25
This is a shame. BumRushDaShow Jun 2020 #31
Yes. Thank you. I actually called up the BLS CPS group this morning and asked PatrickforO Jun 2020 #51
How many are people forced to return to work despite corona virus fears? nt tblue37 Jun 2020 #101
I don't belive that BS for a second Bengus81 Jun 2020 #3
Something's wrong here. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #4
Because 14.2m files jobless claims between mid April to mid May? denem Jun 2020 #10
Massive layoffs and business closed everywhere for months make for only 3.7% higher? Bengus81 Jun 2020 #17
We have a Democratic governor here in Kansas. nt tblue37 Jun 2020 #102
Me, either... IthinkThereforeIAM Jun 2020 #20
This seems.... rather unbelievable. Happy Hoosier Jun 2020 #5
can we believe anything coming out of the trump government? samsingh Jun 2020 #6
If anyone believes those numbers, I have a bridge I want to sell you. shockey80 Jun 2020 #7
Hey, wait. The BLS says that employment rose by 2.5 M. They must mean unemployment. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #8
The BLS admitted last month the unemployment rate was close to 20% given the classification errors progree Jun 2020 #9
This would mean that it dropped from a high of around 14 to 13%................Bullshit turbinetree Jun 2020 #11
More lies durablend Jun 2020 #12
Not "lost at a slower pace"... ADDED jobs ??? FBaggins Jun 2020 #13
I'm reading it too. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #16
My guess is that it's a quirk with the standard survey vs. some VERY non-standard times. FBaggins Jun 2020 #29
As I commented on a duplicate thread Steelrolled Jun 2020 #49
It doesn't match the continuing claims for unemployment, and I sure don't still_one Jun 2020 #14
It does match the continuing claims for unemployment, which is 20m people mathematic Jun 2020 #23
How have payrolls increased that much. Mohamed El-Erian sure is skeptical of it still_one Jun 2020 #26
Hey, I'm just addressing your initial concern about the continuing claims, which DO match up mathematic Jun 2020 #32
I agree we have seen the worst in unemployment, but that the increase was this still_one Jun 2020 #33
I admit that I'm guessing... but I think it's the difference between a hard count FBaggins Jun 2020 #37
I am wondering if some of these PPP loans are having an effect where some still_one Jun 2020 #40
That's certainly what the intent was when Congress created those "loans". FBaggins Jun 2020 #46
From the source. The BLS says that employment went up by 2.5 M. Not unemployment. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #15
I would think that in order to get that jobs "increase" (am guessing "net increase" for the month) BumRushDaShow Jun 2020 #28
The WaPo did some editing on their article. The edit changes things. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #38
I did see this interesting comment in the thread BumRushDaShow Jun 2020 #42
Thanks still_one Jun 2020 #36
De nada. I consider it my job. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #39
................................... still_one Jun 2020 #41
How do we know tRump didn't have someone mess with the numbers? ariadne0614 Jun 2020 #18
Tell that to the closed restaurants, businesses, and those part of the continuing still_one Jun 2020 #19
Trump stopped counting the unemployed and the dead bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #21
BREAKING Unemployment Rate Fell to 13.3% in May mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #22
You could fry an egg on those numbers. denem Jun 2020 #24
Those are Sarah Palin numbers bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #27
As economist dig into the numbers, they found an interesting "footnote" maxrandb Jun 2020 #30
Anyone know what that means? Steelrolled Jun 2020 #45
They've Done That For Decades ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #84
Except that this situation is unique and nothing like any other catastrophic event in the past. honest.abe Jun 2020 #87
A Good Portion, Yes ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #88
They admitted it was an error. honest.abe Jun 2020 #93
Talking About 2 Different Omissions ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #95
Explain please. honest.abe Jun 2020 #96
Here's how the Washington Post describes it (humans being humans, sigh) progree Jun 2020 #90
Links to charts and graphs from the BLS Twitter account. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #34
Additional links: mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #35
I don't know about everywhere else Steelrolled Jun 2020 #43
Barring a second wave of infections, we probably ARE past the bottom FBaggins Jun 2020 #47
Household survey (that produces unemployment rate) is done over one week in this case May 10 - May progree Jun 2020 #53
I question everything, EVERYTHING that comes out of this administration; SayItLoud Jun 2020 #44
Let's see...unemployment numbers the first week of Feb 2021---18%-20% BANK on it Bengus81 Jun 2020 #48
bogus data if I ever saw with the number of people filing weekly claims near 40 million beachbumbob Jun 2020 #50
Bloomberg doesn't seem to agree. Lonestarblue Jun 2020 #52
MarketWatch forecast of 15 economists: jobs: -7.25 M, unemployment rate: 19.0% progree Jun 2020 #55
So How Can DallasNE Jun 2020 #54
I believe this as much as I believed that 4% unemployment BS. nt yaesu Jun 2020 #56
Probably most of those are laid off employees returning as businesses... WePurrsevere Jun 2020 #57
Did we say 2.5 million? We meant 10 million! mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #58
I haven't had chance to check but BumRushDaShow Jun 2020 #59
Yes: March and April a combined 642,000 worse than last reported progree Jun 2020 #61
Thank you!!! BumRushDaShow Jun 2020 #62
Well, that's about right. MarketWatch forecast 7.25 M LOST, Yahoo Finance: 8 M LOST progree Jun 2020 #60
SOME BLS SERIES NUMBERS - Links progree Jun 2020 #63
I'm calling BS. This was reported 5/28/2020 on CNBC ... aggiesal Jun 2020 #64
Continuing claims is 21.49 million, not far from the Unemployed number: 20.98 million progree Jun 2020 #66
Also if you exhaust your unemployment benefits, you drop off the unemployment list ... aggiesal Jun 2020 #67
The BLS numbers in todays jobs reports counts everyone who says they are out of a job progree Jun 2020 #68
Thanks for the link. In California, when you are unemployed ... aggiesal Jun 2020 #70
That's unemployed status too. Again, that Household Survey of 60,000 households is progree Jun 2020 #72
That's a frequent misconception FBaggins Jun 2020 #71
U-6 unemployment rate 21.2% (includes people who have looked for work sometime in past 12 months progree Jun 2020 #65
Bean counters give the Corps 500 trillion to hire people Cryptoad Jun 2020 #69
Trump says he hopes George Floyd 'looking down' and seeing today's jobs numbers as 'a great day for progree Jun 2020 #73
Link to another thread at DU about the report mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #74
I've been seeing more and more talking about the "COVID-19 factor" BumRushDaShow Jun 2020 #75
That showed up early this morning. I wish he had crossported it in this thread. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #76
Have fun BumRushDaShow Jun 2020 #77
March and April also had the same problem. March was "almost 1 percentage point", progree Jun 2020 #78
Thank you for writing. I posted the link because I thought that there should be a central place mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #80
Oh, nothing wrong with posting it here. It is a fact that the BLS has admitted to the 3 progree Jun 2020 #81
"... the same misclassification error in the April report...." mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #82
The LBN April jobs thread already has postings about the misclassification error progree Jun 2020 #83
Thanks for your work on this........... Bengus81 Jun 2020 #79
Thanks. It's mostly just a bunch of cut and paste. There's not that much work involved. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #86
Link to yet another thread at DU about the report: mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #85
Just when you think you've got them all, here's another. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #89
This one got removed as being a DUPE in LBN, but the comments are still there - progree Jun 2020 #91
Another one has been posted since then. I'm tired. I'm going to have some dinner. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #92
101 million jobless Americans (remember when Trump criticized Obama for "94 million jobless progree Jun 2020 #94
Response to someone claiming "As soon as it was caught the same day it was corrected." and other progree Jun 2020 #97
Here we go again. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #98
That 20% refers to April, not May (sigh, here we go again) progree Jun 2020 #99
Best explanation of unemployment insurance & compared to this jobs report, by Wolf Richter progree Jun 2020 #100
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