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wishstar

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52. US states NO CIA, only 2 US Air Force onboard, Per new Time magazine report:
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 05:17 AM
Feb 2020
https://time.com/5775758/military-crash-cia-disinformation/

The wreckage of a U.S. military plane that crashed and burned in a snowy mountainous region in Afghanistan on Monday was still fresh when Iranian state TV ran a story claiming a top CIA officer was among the dead. Like all good propaganda, the story was mostly false, but with a scintilla of truth. Two American service members had been killed when the U.S. Air Force jet slammed into the snowy ground, but U.S. officials insist there was no CIA onboard.

The U.S. military says it could not have gotten the news out sooner. But the Iranian version of events that circulated in the information vacuum had people inside and outside the U.S. wondering who to believe. The Trump Administration’s now-familiar pattern of slow, incomplete and sometimes disingenuous responses to events has ground down public and internal trust of its messaging and created an opportunity for adversaries like Iran and Russia to spread disinformation and sow confusion among allies and U.S. officials. The wrong information can spread about an event whether it happened on a remote Afghan mountainside or a maximum-security American compound. “If false reports are not authoritatively or convincingly disproven, they can take on a life of their own,” James Cunningham, former U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan told TIME. “Once that happens, it’s very hard to undo that.”

Critics and some U.S. officials say the growing dearth of trust in America’s word is symptomatic of an Administration led by a President who calls journalists “the enemy of the people”, frequently labels factual or unflattering news coverage as “fake news”, and has himself made more than 12,000 false or misleading statements during his tenure, according to a count by The Washington Post. A trust gap has formed between journalists and Administration spokespeople who often see challenging questions as political attacks, and treat offending outlets with disdain.

Overall, there are fewer on-record press briefings in the Pentagon, the State Department, the White House and other agencies in this Administration, says a former senior Trump Administration official. He says that’s due in part to the top-down nature of the Administration and in part to subordinates’ efforts to protect the President. There is an internal battle afoot with some senior Administration officials arguing for more public briefings, and while the White House Press Secretary hasn’t briefed from the podium since March 2019, the Pentagon and State Department have resumed holding more frequent press conferences to win back that global public trust. But it’s an uphill battle against the megaphone of the Twitter presidency —and the active disinformation campaigns being waged overseas against the U.S. “No one believes us anymore,” one frustrated senior U.S. official said.



Live by violence, die by violence DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #1
I wonder if the Trumpster leaked information exboyfil Jan 2020 #2
It's sad that this is a possibility in the age of trump. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2020 #3
Hardly an unlikely possibility... hlthe2b Jan 2020 #14
Pretty much a near certainty when the idiot in charge christx30 Jan 2020 #38
Sources and methods leak when you plan in the restaurant bigbrother05 Jan 2020 #31
This is a big deal. Ilsa Jan 2020 #4
Why haven't we heard anything on this from trump admin - inquiring minds want to know. iluvtennis Jan 2020 #5
Interesting Nasruddin Jan 2020 #6
Footage of the crashed plane: dalton99a Jan 2020 #7
Interesting Hole in the Wellstone ruled Jan 2020 #17
Killing those who know things Sanity Claws Jan 2020 #8
Couldn't stop that idea 2naSalit Jan 2020 #41
Wow. Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #9
Seems very interesting the day after the rockets hit the US Embassy in Baghdad Lulu KC Jan 2020 #10
Trump needs to get his story straight with Russia, gab13by13 Jan 2020 #16
spot on, this is much more surreal than any spy movie onetexan Jan 2020 #42
Soon to be a fantasy show on Fox. marble falls Jan 2020 #11
tRump probably couldn't get on the phone fast enough to his love putin to spill the beans. nt yaesu Jan 2020 #12
Well that's an interesting coincidence Sapient Donkey Jan 2020 #13
Nope. Silence of Western media means you're probably reading it right. ancianita Jan 2020 #35
Right on time Bayard Jan 2020 #15
British version of "earned." Jedi Guy Jan 2020 #22
I call bull shit hack89 Jan 2020 #18
Any other sources on this? Real or fake news? Nt lostnfound Jan 2020 #19
Yes but all foreign sources. The Guardian also has an article True_Blue Jan 2020 #25
a quick google search barbtries Jan 2020 #20
The sources listed on Google are from middle eastern sources. cyndensco Jan 2020 #24
tying up loose ends. nt Javaman Jan 2020 #21
Dead men tell no tales. nm Wednesdays Jan 2020 #23
This can be confirmed or denied if the mylightningtoo Jan 2020 #26
Wikipedia has him listed as dead... Duppers Jan 2020 #44
Did Russia get info from Trump or on their own and pass it on to the Taliban in order to target ... Botany Jan 2020 #27
#TrumpsWar SayItLoud Jan 2020 #28
That was my first thought. Not enough corroboration/details yet, but seems likely. nt crickets Jan 2020 #48
Bookmarked to follow. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2020 #29
we are all in a Robert Ludlum book NRaleighLiberal Jan 2020 #30
Yes!!! padah513 Jan 2020 #34
With Trump, we are all in a Spy vs Spy cartoon. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2020 #43
"... D'Andrea, who earnt several nicknames .." pangaia Jan 2020 #32
As Malcolm Nance says, coincidences take a lot of planning. nt SunSeeker Jan 2020 #33
Every Iran expert said it would happen this way greenjar_01 Jan 2020 #36
Interesting. James48 Jan 2020 #37
How convenient...Was there anything this guy knew that needed to stay under wraps? Perseus Jan 2020 #39
Unfortunately we have no idea what really happened. 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #40
Hell, we have a President that could have leaked details himself Bradical79 Jan 2020 #45
Pic of Zero Dark Thirty actor used in theory that CIA official killed in plane crash in Afghanistan. greyl Jan 2020 #46
But is he alive tho? greenjar_01 Jan 2020 #49
Undetermined. nt greyl Jan 2020 #50
A curious silence greenjar_01 Jan 2020 #51
If you live by the sword, you shall indeed die by it. roamer65 Jan 2020 #47
Have you read Luke 22? discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2020 #53
US states NO CIA, only 2 US Air Force onboard, Per new Time magazine report: wishstar Feb 2020 #52
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