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BumRushDaShow

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Mon Oct 28, 2019, 06:35 PM Oct 2019

General Motors Sides With Trump in Emissions Battle, Splitting the Industry [View all]

Source: New York Times



General Motors, Fiat Chrysler, Toyota and other auto giants said they were intervening on the side of the Trump administration on Monday in an escalating battle with California over fuel economy standards for automobiles.Their decision pits them squarely against some of their peers, including Honda and Ford, who this year reached a deal to follow California’s more stricter rules.

The automakers that are siding with the Trump administration, led by the industry group Global Automakers, say that the federal government, not California, has the ultimate authority to set fuel economy standards for passenger cars and trucks. It represents the latest dramatic twist in one of the Trump administration’s most consequential rollbacks of regulations designed to fight climate change.

The administration has proposed a major weakening of federal auto emissions standards set during the Obama administration, prompting California to declare that it will go its own course and continue to enforce the earlier, stricter standards. Under the Clean Air Act, California has the authority to write its own clean air rules — and California has now taken the Trump administration to court to defend its authority to set its own emissions rules.

Several other states have pledged to follow California’s lead, meaning that the action has the potential to split the United States auto market into two markets, each selling vehicles with different sets of emissions standards. In July, Honda, Ford, Volkswagen and BMW sided with California in the battle, striking a deal with the state to follow more stringent standards close to the original Obama-era rules. That surprise agreement, which prompted an angry response from President Trump, would allow those automakers to meet both federal and state requirements with a single national fleet, avoiding a patchwork of regulations.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/climate/general-motors-california-emissions-trump.html

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Well bluestarone Oct 2019 #1
Bye bye GM onecaliberal Oct 2019 #2
Yup ... glad I have a Honda (well, Acura) ... GM is now dead to me (nt) mr_lebowski Oct 2019 #4
I am driving one right now. I will never buy another automobile from them ever. onecaliberal Oct 2019 #47
Luck of the draw I guess ... I've had 3 cars since 1991 ... all Acura's ... 0 serious issues w/any mr_lebowski Oct 2019 #57
They haven't even got everything restarted since the UAW strike. Quackers Oct 2019 #55
Fiat Chrysler, Toyota and other auto giants elleng Oct 2019 #59
Boycott ALL General Motors products. democratisphere Oct 2019 #3
Awesome, show that forward thinking that required us to bail y'all out the 1st time. Afromania Oct 2019 #5
So what are they saying, they don't have the smarts to meet the standards that Honda, Ford, still_one Oct 2019 #6
Well, I'd be careful about trusting VW's standards. erronis Oct 2019 #13
Somewhat shortsighted for GM etc? mwooldri Oct 2019 #7
As if them taking all those taxpayer dollars during the Bailouts Beryllinthranox Oct 2019 #8
How stupid of a move is that? docgee Oct 2019 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #10
For them it is a business decision. For some I suspect they believe they can garner favor from still_one Oct 2019 #11
Isn't Ford only slated to have 2 production cars soon? Beryllinthranox Oct 2019 #15
This year Ford is releasing both Escape and Explorer hybrid, and first quarter of still_one Oct 2019 #24
Certainly. Beryllinthranox Oct 2019 #42
Exactly. You are aware of the brand name they like too, Buick. Bravo!!! still_one Oct 2019 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #28
If they don't sell vehicles, for whatever reason, what do you suggest? still_one Oct 2019 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2019 #33
Smell you later GM. CentralMass Oct 2019 #12
So damn short-sighted sakabatou Oct 2019 #14
They'll never live this one down. byronius Oct 2019 #16
Do buy electric Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #22
I've sworn to never buy another internal combustion engine. byronius Oct 2019 #23
We have owned one Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #31
They put the Volt on the chopping block. End of the line for that model. Whether they will still_one Oct 2019 #26
I know, but a lot were leased Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #34
The Volt sold poorly MichMan Oct 2019 #38
It sold "poorly" Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #56
I predict California will not back down Auggie Oct 2019 #17
Time to go electric Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #18
I would never buy a government motors car anyway but will not touch any auto product yaesu Oct 2019 #19
Following California's rules requires money and superior engineering bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #20
Buh-Bye, GM. . . Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. . . BigDemVoter Oct 2019 #21
Anyone know if Nissan or Hyundai have sided with Trump or Cali? NickB79 Oct 2019 #25
Perhaps given customer preferences towards trucks and SUV and the current price of gasoline MichMan Oct 2019 #27
Do NOT boycott UAW made cars...... ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2019 #29
Is Ford a UAW made car? Then make it a Ford dem4decades Oct 2019 #32
This is the problem I think, some folks tend to fly off the handle and don't understand still_one Oct 2019 #36
GM products SUCK. Have since the 90's. Evolve Dammit Oct 2019 #35
California is a huge purchaser of new autos kimbutgar Oct 2019 #37
Congratulations, GM!! hatrack Oct 2019 #39
My next car will be a Subaru. roamer65 Oct 2019 #40
What is Subaru's position? levp Oct 2019 #45
Subaru is heavy into recycling and waste reclamation at its Indiana plant. roamer65 Oct 2019 #50
Not just GM, but also Toyota and FCA MichMan Oct 2019 #41
I've always owned Toyotas. denvine Oct 2019 #43
Buying a new Ford next year. Owl Oct 2019 #46
Strategic Stupidity is a GM Hallmark. Kid Berwyn Oct 2019 #48
No more bailouts, and that means NONE! Dawson Leery Oct 2019 #49
Weird. I'm driving two vehicles, a gas hog Ford Raptor (I need it) and truthisfreedom Oct 2019 #51
but... but... what about "state's rights"??? Takket Oct 2019 #52
Stupid long term move. The world will not want, nor need, inefficient gas guzzling cars. Freethinker65 Oct 2019 #53
I'll stick with my Honda n/t imavoter Oct 2019 #54
Stupid of GM to piss off Americans rockfordfile Oct 2019 #58
So Obama saves GM with a bailout, over the objections of the Republicans at the time LiberalLovinLug Oct 2019 #60
Toyota is the only major automaker whose overall US fuel economy and CO2 emissions is getting worse. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 #61
Toyota is a big disappointment when it comes to trucks. I looked at new ones Vinca Oct 2019 #62
I'm surprised they included VW in that tweeted data BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #63
Nissan sided with DT as well. Nt raccoon Oct 2019 #64
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