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Fiendish Thingy

(15,754 posts)
17. NO. FUCKING. WAY.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 04:03 PM
Sep 2019

We've got him on the ropes now, no mercy.

Sure, make the Ukraine crimes the centerpiece of the hearings, but don't ignore the myriad other crimes- obstruction, campaign finance fraud, abuse of power, etc.

Keeping the inquiry open to other non-Ukraine issues is critical, especially because an important court decision is due around November that would force the release of financial documents by Deutches bank and Trump's accountants, and is sure to include lots of incriminating evidence around fraud and money laundering for Russians. To exclude that evidence could hamstring the case for impeachment and remove the coup de grace that might even get a senate conviction.

Also, having non-Ukraine articles of impeachment would give the GOP and "out" to say "those other articles were just political, but this Ukraine (and hopefully financial crimes in the November decision) stuff crosses the line"

I agree with this approach. madaboutharry Sep 2019 #1
yes, the Ukraine situation, and everything related, IS important... not_the_one Sep 2019 #2
...and Turd is still holding thousands of children in dungeons...or has already sold them. lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #41
Has Pelosi seen the actual whistleblower complaint yet? Freethinker65 Sep 2019 #3
Read it yourself here: lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #42
Disagree strongly! Miguelito Loveless Sep 2019 #4
+1 He has committed hundreds of serious crimes. Need to hedge our bets and prosecute ALL of them. lagomorph777 Sep 2019 #43
If they think they can get the Senate Republicans to come along with just this one issue... wysimdnwyg Sep 2019 #5
Bullshit, Russia installed this traitor. denbot Sep 2019 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2019 #7
Uh Huh. orangecrush Sep 2019 #20
I hope Pelosi knows what she's doing IronLionZion Sep 2019 #8
STOP with the I hope speaker Pelosi knows what she's doing!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #27
Don't misunderstand IronLionZion Sep 2019 #30
Fair enough! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #34
Brilliant brilliant! One and done. I hope her strategy is respected. Actually, Neil Katyal said Ninga Sep 2019 #9
I saw that bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #12
Thx! I looked for the vid but couldn't remember which MSNBC program he was on. Ninga Sep 2019 #14
I explained it to my non newsy wife in less than 60 seconds BannonsLiver Sep 2019 #22
Fine, if it works, BUT... regnaD kciN Sep 2019 #31
This exactly! LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #39
Pssst! The other guys have commited crimes. bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #10
Nah, we need his tax returns Drahthaardogs Sep 2019 #11
OFFS Voltaire2 Sep 2019 #13
I partly agree Bradical79 Sep 2019 #15
Ditto! BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #16
NO. FUCKING. WAY. Fiendish Thingy Sep 2019 #17
Agree 100%... regnaD kciN Sep 2019 #32
agree 100% Locrian Sep 2019 #37
Here we go again. LiberalLovinLug Sep 2019 #18
Oh ...so it took all of 24 hrs to start with more arm chair speaker Pelosi needs to do such and so Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #28
Respectfully, but you are so off base. GulfCoast66 Sep 2019 #44
When she says so publicly I'll believe it orangecrush Sep 2019 #19
This is a terrible idea wysi Sep 2019 #21
The narrower it is, the fewer offenses NOT available, post-impeach, elleng Sep 2019 #23
Impeachment has no impact on criminal charges Massacure Sep 2019 #24
Thanks, elleng Sep 2019 #25
It would help if people actually read the article. TwilightZone Sep 2019 #26
Thank you!! She knows what she's doing.. we should all continue to support her efforts and not Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #29
Frankly, I'd be a little more inclined to trust her judgment on this... regnaD kciN Sep 2019 #33
"slow-walking"? TwilightZone Sep 2019 #36
Brilliant. She is not just playing Trump but half of DU! GulfCoast66 Sep 2019 #35
100% agree DeminPennswoods Sep 2019 #38
Might not be so "narrow" going forward Bradical79 Sep 2019 #40
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