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Igel

(35,300 posts)
19. My county has an issue with bail.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 06:04 PM
Sep 2019

It's disposed of it for a lot of crimes. Provided you're poor and can't make bail.

If you have money, then you pay.

It's a sliding scale of risk x money. If you're low risk and have money, you can not pay. But if you're high risk and don't have money, you're as likely not to pay.

"Risk" is risk of flight. It's the kind of thing that makes some widely cited statistics probably flawed beyond repair: If you have no strong ties to the community, you can flee before you're even identified and caught. If you have weaker ties, you might flee only after being identified and you know they're after you. If you're low risk, you have stuff and folk that tie you down but not so much stuff or folk that you can easily be comfortably relocated by noon tomorrow.

In this thread's comments, "risk" seems to be "at risk of repeating the crime." It's not at all clear that's its meaning in the OP, where it sounds like the meaning that's generally used in legal settings.

This is where "high achieving" comes in. The kid has a strong reason to stay in the area: he's a senior, and not one at risk of failing out but one who could lose honors by being gone for even a few weeks. That means he's highly motivated to stay in the area and show up for his court date--which is the primary reason for bail. (With posing a danger to society being more a reason to deny bail, not hike the value of the bond.)

I'm going to side with the judge here Massacure Sep 2019 #1
Because that's what's important? Phoenix61 Sep 2019 #2
He doesn't have to have the cash. SeattleVet Sep 2019 #3
Massacure... it is not about ability to pay its about the damn crime... christ on a crutch. NotHardly Sep 2019 #4
It very much is about the ability to pay. Massacure Sep 2019 #21
Then get rid of bail for everyone, not just "high-achieving college students"... moriah Sep 2019 #6
That's how it should be. Not some people get special treatment because of who they are Sapient Donkey Sep 2019 #18
My county has an issue with bail. Igel Sep 2019 #19
Agree ToxMarz Sep 2019 #7
He should have thought of the consequences before attacking a woman. Lonestarblue Sep 2019 #9
But at this point, as far as the Court is concerned . . . markpkessinger Sep 2019 #16
Yeah, boys have it so hard (no pun) when being charged with crimes... NotHardly Sep 2019 #5
reasoning my a$$ Snoopy 7 Sep 2019 #8
Correct mercuryblues Sep 2019 #12
Sorry, I am very anti-cash bail, and the judge was right obamanut2012 Sep 2019 #10
This article is dated 11/9/2019 which, without outside research, makes me suspicious. Firestorm49 Sep 2019 #11
This report is from Australia mercuryblues Sep 2019 #13
I think that's just because it's from Australia FiveGoodMen Sep 2019 #15
What worries me as much as the bail situation is that he was in a position of authority over her csziggy Sep 2019 #14
That's the allegations. Igel Sep 2019 #20
I will hazard a guess... lonely bird Sep 2019 #17
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