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Gun Used in Texas Shooting Was Illegally Manufactured and Sold: REPORT [View all]

Source: National Review

Gun Used in Texas Shooting Was Illegally Manufactured and Sold: REPORT

By Jack Crowe
September 5, 2019 5:19 PM

Authorities believe the gun used in the drive-by shooting in Midland and Odessa, Texas this past weekend was illegally manufactured and sold by a Lubbock, Texas man, the Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday. The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is currently investigating a man who they believe illegally manufactured and sold the AR-15-style rifle that Seth Ator used to kill seven people and injure 22 more on Saturday, before he was shot and killed by police.

Ator, 36, had previously attempted to purchase a gun from a licensed seller in January 2014, but failed the requisite background check because he’d been declared mentally unfit by a local court. A nationwide criminal-background check identified the court order and prevented the purchase, according to local authorities.

If Ator did in fact purchase the weapon through a private transaction, its seller was under no obligation to conduct a background check, but could be held criminally liable if evidence emerges that he knew his prospective customer came to him due to a previous background-check failure.

Read more: https://www.nationalreview.com/news/gun-used-in-texas-shooting-illegally-manufactured-sold-report/

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Gun Used in Texas Shooting Was Illegally Manufactured and Sold: REPORT [View all] PSPS Sep 2019 OP

I don't give a flying fuck. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2019 #1

#1 a million times! riversedge Sep 2019 #2

Yup. And once we did and... B Stieg Sep 2019 #3

But the NRA insists the Founding Fathers were talking about Semi-Automatic weapons... ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2019 #4

NRA types think they can defend themselves against government tyranny IronLionZion Sep 2019 #19

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In more ways than one... B Stieg Sep 2019 #9

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Gun manufacturers continued to make 100's of thousands of semi-auto rifles like the AR-15. B Stieg Sep 2019 #25

A ban on all semiauto weapons means most handguns as well NickB79 Sep 2019 #36

Yup. And they need to be banned, too! B Stieg Sep 2019 #37

Good luck with that NickB79 Sep 2019 #40

Really? That's a GOP talking point... B Stieg Sep 2019 #42

Your link supports my statement, not yours NickB79 Sep 2019 #44

70% oppose banning handguns according to your link hack89 Sep 2019 #45

I wasn't talking about hand guns. B Stieg Sep 2019 #47

Take a real look at those Gallup polls hack89 Sep 2019 #48

Who cares? PEOPLE are INCREASINGLY dying from all kinds of guns, some more than others... B Stieg Sep 2019 #50

The vast majority of handguns are semiautomatic hack89 Sep 2019 #49

Didn't use to be paleotn Sep 2019 #52

Certainly since the early 80s. hack89 Sep 2019 #58

and this post melm00se Sep 2019 #67

Yes paleotn Sep 2019 #51

No. Ban removable magazines. On all types of guns. sir pball Sep 2019 #41

That's what the Canadians do, and they can own many semiauto rifles NickB79 Sep 2019 #46

I won't poison my YouTube looking for gun videos, but here's a video to illustrate. sir pball Sep 2019 #55

Canada does *not* ban removeable magazines, per the RCMP: friendly_iconoclast Sep 2019 #80

I said they ban magazines over 5 rounds NickB79 Sep 2019 #87

NY magazine capacity is limited to 10 rounds, not 7. sl8 Sep 2019 #85

0.0 % chance of that one Baconator Sep 2019 #62

Your "optimism" is part of the problem! B Stieg Sep 2019 #66

The 1994 Federal AWB did not actually ban military style rifles hack89 Sep 2019 #26

The 1994 Assault Weapons Ban didn't take any guns off the streets LittleBunny Sep 2019 #75

very true mauserk98 Sep 2019 #89

So, by your "logic," should we take rape and bank robbery laws off the books? Paladin Sep 2019 #90

Their selfish intention to indulge themselves always supersedes everything else. Judi Lynn Sep 2019 #8

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Gun owners are primitive, shabby, stupid, and dishonest? Marengo Sep 2019 #15

Some yeah, some need a reality check BADLY, the evidence is kinda clear? Brainfodder Sep 2019 #34

Many, yes paleotn Sep 2019 #53

Can you provide percentages and the data used to form those conclusions? Marengo Sep 2019 #70

My own observations paleotn Sep 2019 #76

Oh, so a tiny sample population subject to your own bias. Got it. As for your semantic parlor... Marengo Sep 2019 #82

I shoot with doctors, lawyers and other professionals hack89 Sep 2019 #59

Its sounds nice, but its unrealistic. There are 300 million of them. Theyre NOT going anywhere. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #16

I'd be OK with guns, if people were ALL OK too. Brainfodder Sep 2019 #32

If you take away the legal guns customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #77

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The last five words of your post are operative here jmowreader Sep 2019 #7

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Finally. A meaning to "illegally manufactured". ManiacJoe Sep 2019 #65

When I was younger, they called them 'zip guns' . Doug.Goodall Sep 2019 #14

Not what is discussed here. House of Roberts Sep 2019 #22

It's called a "ghost gun" gay texan Sep 2019 #23

Ghost guns are the perfect way around background checks. patphil Sep 2019 #24

Well I learned something here today underpants Sep 2019 #27

There's a youtube video MosheFeingold Sep 2019 #74

It's like how they prevent kids from watching some adult content. Brainfodder Sep 2019 #33

yes, you getting the picture gay texan Sep 2019 #38

It's not strictly specific to ARs, any gun can be "80%" sir pball Sep 2019 #56

there is a guy in our neighborhood who makes bullets for his friends. demigoddess Sep 2019 #28

Insurance is based on risk sarisataka Sep 2019 #29

how many people were killed this year? that is a risk demigoddess Sep 2019 #61

High cost, eh? So, only the well-heeled can afford to own firearms? Marengo Sep 2019 #31

Not only that. Calista241 Sep 2019 #78

Agreed, and what of the vast number of racist cops DU believes to exist? How can they be trusted... Marengo Sep 2019 #83

Royalism is alive and well in gun control circles: "Only the good people should have guns" friendly_iconoclast Sep 2019 #79

It strikes me as the epitome of white privilege. Marengo Sep 2019 #84

What's the issue with hand loading for friends? Marengo Sep 2019 #88

Ghost gun from an 80% lower? mitch96 Sep 2019 #30

yes gay texan Sep 2019 #39

Making guns is not that difficult ripcord Sep 2019 #17

Well, I guess we ought to give up and wait for the next available psycho to gun us down. Paladin Sep 2019 #18

Just an FYI ripcord Sep 2019 #20

Glad you do paleotn Sep 2019 #54

Making a reliable repeater isn't that easy sir pball Sep 2019 #57

So a shooting was prevented for 5 years because of the background check IronLionZion Sep 2019 #21

He committed a felony by lying on the background check he failed NickB79 Sep 2019 #35

Let's straighten out the misleading information here discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #43

The best way to slow down this gun mania is a strong license...unless you can confiscate all the gun Sancho Sep 2019 #60

There is not a huge black market for illegally manufactured/imported firearms madville Sep 2019 #63

As long as you're happy. (nt) Paladin Sep 2019 #64

Of course their are.... Maxheader Sep 2019 #68

Who exactly will be rounding them up? hack89 Sep 2019 #69

You've never read wishing .. Maxheader Sep 2019 #71

On this particular subject, that is a fine line hack89 Sep 2019 #72

I'm deadly serious about seizing all assult rifes.. Maxheader Sep 2019 #81

Republicans support an authoritarian society hack89 Sep 2019 #86

Prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law maxsolomon Sep 2019 #73