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not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
8. freedom OF religion must also mean freedom FROM religion
Fri Aug 23, 2019, 05:31 PM
Aug 2019

Sorry, lots of caps for emphasis, NOT VOLUME! And smilies galore! And the single, token BOLD.

We have the freedom to be a member of ANY religion (isn't America WONDERFUL? ), or we can choose to not believe in any SPECIFIC religion (but still have spiritual beliefs ), or to NOT BELIEVE in religion/spirituality at all (even MORE wonderful!!! ).

Laws are established relating to public services just for that purpose. If it is a PUBLIC offering of goods or services (meaning offered to EVERYONE), rules that apply to the PUBLIC must be applied.

If that is not the case, then if you are not a member with beliefs matching the persons offering the services, you have no rights.

In other words, you can't offer services to the PUBLIC. DUH!

Can't have it both ways.

If said CHRISTIAN video/photographer is only offering services to CHRISTIANS, then they can refuse someone who is not upholding their CHRISTIAN beliefs.

Or, restated, if said RELIGIOUS video/photographer is only offering services to others of the same religious beliefs, then they can refuse someone who is not upholding THEIR beliefs.

Otherwise, TOUGH SHIT. (Now THAT was a scream.

But we ALL know that what they REALLY WANT is to legislate and codify CHRISTIAN SHARIA LAW.

The fight should be framed that way.

then everyone can refuse service to xtians because it violates religious beliefs... nt msongs Aug 2019 #1
Religion - a bullshit cover for political operatives. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2019 #2
freedom OF religion must also mean freedom FROM religion not_the_one Aug 2019 #8
"But we ALL know that what they REALLY WANT is to legislate and codify CHRISTIAN SHARIA LAW." RKP5637 Aug 2019 #11
In order for anyone to do business they must accept certain requirements. LiberalFighter Aug 2019 #3
Are you sure? metalbot Aug 2019 #7
How is baking a cake for a same-sex wedding different fro a cake for an opposite-sex wedding? yardwork Aug 2019 #16
Why move the goalposts outside of the implicit anti-discrimination laws? LanternWaste Aug 2019 #22
Why should a fundamentalist Christian baker be forced to provide a service to an openly gay couple LiberalLovinLug Aug 2019 #14
We've been through all this before. The Civil Rights movement resulted in federal laws. yardwork Aug 2019 #17
Thanks LiberalLovinLug Aug 2019 #18
You are confusing two things. yardwork Aug 2019 #19
Thanks again, I guess LiberalLovinLug Aug 2019 #20
I don't think that you understand. yardwork Aug 2019 #21
That's an easy position to hold until one has to provide services to the Klan Mike_DuBois Aug 2019 #15
This is an early procedural decision, elleng Aug 2019 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Initech Aug 2019 #5
R you #MAGA ? Historic NY Aug 2019 #6
I was out walking my dogs with my dad the other day. Initech Aug 2019 #10
This is why the Christian right is coming after the courts. Initech Aug 2019 #9
Throughout history, it's been the religious freaks persecuting others. Their crap to me about being RKP5637 Aug 2019 #12
Amen to that!!! Initech Aug 2019 #13
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