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Hekate

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39. I'm glad that he had the choice and the means. There is no "cure" for old age...
Mon May 14, 2018, 01:37 PM
May 2018

Last edited Mon May 14, 2018, 03:10 PM - Edit history (2)

When I was a kid I used to think living to a hundred or even 200 would be fabulous. But now I am 70, and realize that everybody gets the same number of "youth" years, and nowadays some extension of "middle age" years -- but after that, old age is what you've got.

Whether your personal old age is two decades or ten decades (as in, living to 150) what you are living with is an increasingly frail body with all its bits faling off or breaking, and a near inevitability of dementia at some point, because the brain is just another body part.

We have 7 billion people on this planet. When we have sorted out that problem, get back to me about extending life indefinitely. Then get back to me about "curing" old age.

I'm not in any hurry to shuffle off this mortal coil just yet. But there is a lesson in Greek mythology:

I met the Sibyl at Cumae, quotes TS Eliot in his epigraph to The Waste Land.

"I saw myself, with my own eyes, the Sibyl of Cumae hanging in a bottle; and when the boys asked her: "Sibyl, what do you want?" she responded: "I want to die."
Petronius, Satyricon

The god Apollo asked his faithful prophetess what gift he could give her, and she asked for eternal life. Unfortunately, she neglected to ask for eternal youth, which Apollo could not afterwards grant her, so that she shriveled and withered over the years into an insect husk of the woman she had once been, living a wretched eternity in a glass bottle.
The poet T.S. Eliot used this passage as the epigram for his great poem "The Waste Land," and indeed his work is filled with prophets living on the edge of chaos: the Sibyl of Cumae shrinking into nothingness...

http://www.deepthought.org/~efulton/sibyl.html

To those whining about this: Le Gaucher May 2018 #1
Shame on them for having their own opinions Fullduplexxx May 2018 #2
I have no problem if they keep their opinions to themselves. Le Gaucher May 2018 #4
+1000 nt Javaman May 2018 #9
no pun intended? yurbud May 2018 #24
Yes, lots of people have opinions on what others should or shouldn't do with their own lives. Demit May 2018 #10
The 1st a is a double edged sword but frankly i dont care if someone wants an early out Fullduplexxx May 2018 #11
If the opinion is about someone else's choice meadowlander May 2018 #18
Well, sure metalbot May 2018 #34
It's not about "feeling bad". It's about trying to make someone else's choice for them. meadowlander May 2018 #35
Of course you should not feel bad for feeling liberalhistorian May 2018 #44
They are perfectly free to have their liberalhistorian May 2018 #43
Whos the whiner here - if you cant handle discourse /back & forth on profound cultural & poltical Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2018 #6
This was my point but some are having a hard time understanding Fullduplexxx May 2018 #12
I think given the current retirement savings rate euthanasia should be Le Gaucher May 2018 #3
I had a meeting with some financial advisors last month reflection May 2018 #29
I have a very simple portfolio for now .all my 401k is in index funds. Le Gaucher May 2018 #30
Very interesting. I love the idea. reflection May 2018 #32
"should" is not directed at anyone else right? treestar May 2018 #42
My Mother is nearly 86 LittleGirl May 2018 #5
I'm so sorry Beaverhausen May 2018 #14
Thank you, she did piece work at a factory LittleGirl May 2018 #17
so you'd rather have her suffer until she dies than be "addicted?" when you are in her place TheFrenchRazor May 2018 #25
I'm not going to bother LittleGirl May 2018 #26
Wishing dear mom, her companion & family, and you peace & harmony thru this. n/t DemSoc May 2018 #20
Thank you kindly! eom LittleGirl May 2018 #22
AS IS often the case, the devil is in the details - right to end ones one life vs right to continue Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2018 #7
Indeed. Duppers May 2018 #23
I applaud David Goodall. IMHO, my life is my most precious possession, NCjack May 2018 #8
Yes, you get to have your own opinion about if assisted suicide is ok. You even get to express that 3Hotdogs May 2018 #13
What does Jeebus have to do with anything!? If this is to be provided as a service then there Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2018 #15
Jesus is the main reason politicians use to not legalize physician assisted suicide. 3Hotdogs May 2018 #16
ah yes i see - thk u for clarification - aside from that theres not a lot of consensus about how Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2018 #19
Several states have approved ass't. suicide. 3Hotdogs May 2018 #21
There are also the physicians themselves. Jedi Guy May 2018 #28
What happens when the government tells you that you Drahthaardogs May 2018 #33
All I know is my dad wanted to die laying on the beach listening to the waves... moriah May 2018 #36
That doesn't have anything to do with my point Drahthaardogs May 2018 #38
And you're using slippery slope to argue euthanasia has no place. moriah May 2018 #40
Or it is just social pressure treestar May 2018 #41
In other words, you cannot decide to end your own life but the state can. dameatball May 2018 #27
For those who have/had pets crazycatlady May 2018 #31
No equivalency there - different relationship. Also one should not assume that a wish to be "taken" Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2018 #37
I'm glad that he had the choice and the means. There is no "cure" for old age... Hekate May 2018 #39
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