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pat_k

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28. DT is mentally ill: Antisocial Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 05:56 PM
Aug 2017

DT is mentally ill. He meets the criteria for Antisocial and Narcissistic Personality Disorders. And based on public conduct, I have no doubt that an evaluation would put him way up on the Psychopathy Checklist.

Lying and "distorting reality" are hallmarks. He breaks every rule in the book in pursuit of his own ends. He lies and distorts reality to rationalize and justify his wrongful conduct. To puff up his over-inflated ego he stereotypes and denigrates those he sees as out-groups. His callous disregard for others and sense of entitlement appear to know no bounds. He weaves grandiose tales of his fearsome power, omnipotence, and unequaled brilliance. He is proudly abrasive and offensive. He clearly enjoys humiliating and embarrassing others, but reacts to any perceived slight to his own person, appearance, or accomplishments aggressively and vindictively.

I'm sure there have been U.S. presidential candidates, and presidents, who could be diagnosed with a personality disorder of some sort, but I can't think any of who exhibited this level of psychopathy. I can't think of any who met as many diagnostic criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder, or who met as many criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Regarding Personality Disorders in general

There are four defining features of personality disorders. These are:

1) Distorted thinking patterns,
2) Problematic emotional responses,
3) Over- or under-regulated impulse control, and
4) Interpersonal difficulties.


I think it is pretty clear that DT exhibits these defining features.

Antisocial Personality Disorder DSM-5 301.7 (F60.2)

{Lengthy discussion that proceeds diagnostic criteria omitted}

There are four diagnostic criterion, of which Criterion A has seven sub-features
.
A. Disregard for and violation of others rights since age 15, as indicated by three of the seven sub features:
1. Failure to obey laws and norms by engaging in behavior which results in criminal arrest, or would warrant criminal arrest
2. Lying, deception, and manipulation, for profit tor self-amusement,
3. Impulsive behavior
4. Irritability and aggression, assaults others, or engages in fighting
5. Blatantly disregards safety of self and others,
6. A pattern of irresponsibility and
7. Lack of remorse for actions (American Psychiatric Association, 2013)

The other diagnostic Criterion are:
B. The person is at least age 18,
C. Conduct disorder was present by history before age 15
D. and the antisocial behavior does not occur in the context of schizophrenia or bipolar disorder

(American Psychiatric Association, 2013)


DT meets A. He shows "Disregard for and violation of the rights of others." He exhibits at least four of the seven "sub-features."
Specifically 1 (sexual assault clearly warrants arrest), 2, 3, and 7 (I don't think there would be any argument on these three). Arguably he exhibits some of the remaining features. For example, he probably meets 3. He is clearly "irritable and aggressive," but I don't know of any reports of physical assaults in adulthood.

He only needs three of the sub-features to meet the criteria for A "Disregard for and violation of the rights of others"

He is certainly over 18, and from descriptions of him as a kid in [link:http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-choice-2016/transcript/"Frontline: The Choice 2016]" he exhibited the same characteristics (plus physical aggression) from a young age.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder DSM-5 301.81 (F60.81)

The definition of NPD states that it is comprised of a persistent manner of grandiosity, a continuous desire for admiration, along with a lack of empathy. It starts by early adulthood and occurs in a range of situations, as signified by the existence of any 5 of the next 9 standards (American Psychiatric Association, 2013):
-- A grandiose logic of self-importance
-- A fixation with fantasies of infinite success, control, brilliance, beauty, or idyllic love
-- A credence that he or she is extraordinary and exceptional and can only be understood by, or should connect with, other extraordinary or important people or institutions
-- A desire for unwarranted admiration
-- sense of entitlement
-- Interpersonally oppressive behavior
-- No form of empathy
-- Resentment of others or a conviction that others are resentful of him or her
-- A display of egotistical and conceited behaviors or attitudes



On this one I'd say he's nine for nine (and only needs five for diagnosis).

The "Psychopathy Checklist" is highly correlated with the criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Scoring is based on a structured interview, but, given the degree to which DT meets the criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder, I have no doubt that DT's psychopathy score is very high.

waste of time. He's abusive, not mentally ill. Just get him out of office based on other reasons. electron_blue Aug 2017 #1
I agree, our elected Ds need to work for 'the people' & keep moving on the election attacks by Rs !! Sunlei Aug 2017 #8
I dunno. After yesterday, the notion that Trump is clinically insane seems pretty compelling. n/t MrModerate Aug 2017 #12
I think he has been displaying early symptoms Alzheimer's. Yes, he is an evil SOB, but tblue37 Aug 2017 #15
What Phsycological standard tests did you apply , Doctor? Tribalceltic Aug 2017 #26
Here are a couple: pat_k Aug 2017 #29
DT is mentally ill: Antisocial Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder pat_k Aug 2017 #28
pat_k I completely agree Tribalceltic Aug 2017 #33
Trump is unfit to be POTUS Gothmog Aug 2017 #2
No, this is not about Trump's mental health Progressive dog Aug 2017 #3
Have to agree here, not mentally ill extvbroadcaster Aug 2017 #4
I don't give a rat's ass HOW Trumpy got this way. Eyeball_Kid Aug 2017 #10
All that you've mentioned would literally drive a person insane. MrModerate Aug 2017 #13
The answer is Yes. pat_k Aug 2017 #30
This is an insult to those who are mentally ill. BarbD Aug 2017 #5
Recognizing that Ted Bundy is a pychopath doesn't let him "off the hook." pat_k Aug 2017 #32
I wish Ds IN CONGRESS would spend time on raising the Federal Minimum wage. 7.25 is to low. MAKE Rs Sunlei Aug 2017 #6
They're going to get a lot of heat for this, but it's about time!!!! He has a mental problem. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #7
Mental Health? Sociopathy has no remedy except criminal prosecution and incarceration. Look it up. Eyeball_Kid Aug 2017 #9
+1 dalton99a Aug 2017 #17
Mixed feelings Lulu KC Aug 2017 #11
I LOVE it! Paladin Aug 2017 #14
how about they just read the record of the group that already discussed this mopinko Aug 2017 #16
wish Ds could get past this. Ds spent the entire campaign pointing out UNFIT-dangerous deplorable. Sunlei Aug 2017 #18
..... Tanuki Aug 2017 #19
Things to look forward to in 2018/2019. lark Aug 2017 #20
So, implementing a Sed Festival like the Ancient Egyptians. Hugin Aug 2017 #21
Yeah, but it's Democrats. Republicans are the only ones who can effect change. Kablooie Aug 2017 #22
Isn't a good portion of Republicans mentally Duppers Aug 2017 #23
Voting for tRump, I'd say a fair number are. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2017 #35
Research indicates all conservatives are mentally ill. truthisfreedom Aug 2017 #24
A Personality Disorder Is A Type Of Mental Illness Progressive2020 Aug 2017 #25
hate is not mental illness AlexSFCA Aug 2017 #27
Waste of time JonLP24 Aug 2017 #31
I Disagree Progressive2020 Aug 2017 #34
Totally agree. Duppers Aug 2017 #36
Kick for exposure! red dog 1 Aug 2017 #37
The point is to get headlines questioning his stability, not a diagnosis. Give the press lindysalsagal Aug 2017 #38
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