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Kashkakat v.2.0

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19. Say what?
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:55 PM
Feb 2017

OK fine, call it a tax - it is in the generic sense of the word, though by design it was/is intended to something more akin to an insurance premium.

I think you may be confused by the phrase "gen revenue"? It doesnt refer to the entire pot of $$$$ going into federal coffers..........it means tax or other revenue that is collected by govt for general purposes, as opposed to a trust fund or entitlement which is paid into for specific purposes - eg workers comp, Meidcare, FICA, etc.

BTW, "entitlement" is not the bad work repubs make it out to be. It means simply that since you paid into it you are "entitled" to the benefits. As opposed to welfare programs, which must be allocated out of the general funds and is at the mercy of the political whims of the day.

Hate to break it to you but if youre saying SS is, or should be a welfare program coming out of gen funds - THAT is the right winger POV.

Now, to further confuse the issue there has been in recent years smaller amts of $$$ transfered from gen funds into SS trust fund (eg interest on loans taken out of SS funds) but thats a conversation for another day.

The point is - SS needs to be strengthened, not whittled away or defunded by diverting some $$$ to Wall Street or weakened or made into a welfare program.

All I can say is I wish I lived in the alt universe where AL GORE was president and the FICA funds all went into the lock box.

Probably wont happen with the Repugnants in charge however down the road once the Dems eventually cstanleytech Feb 2017 #1
Probably? BainsBane Feb 2017 #6
Other than death nothing is 100% certain. nt cstanleytech Feb 2017 #9
Ryan / McCONnell plan to lower corporate taxes and hike consumer taxes. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #11
Yes I am aware of that but they will not be able to hold power forever, eventually the pendulum cstanleytech Feb 2017 #15
This idea is going to win, in the end. Thank you, Mr. Sanders. n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2017 #2
Your words to God's ear Judi. tenorly Feb 2017 #21
Actually, raising the cap was part of murielm99 Feb 2017 #3
Woot! Go Bernie, make them go on record as keeping this special treatment for the wealthy. JudyM Feb 2017 #4
Talk abt a regressive tax,,,,,,,, SS tax (FICA) is da gold standard! Cryptoad Feb 2017 #5
technically its insurance - as in federal INSURANCE CONTRIBUTIONS ACT Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2017 #17
When u figure out why they call it a FICA "tax",,,, Cryptoad Feb 2017 #18
Say what? Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2017 #19
Rock on Berns! Glamrock Feb 2017 #7
Has he actually introduced the appropriate legislation? George II Feb 2017 #8
Oh hell yes. But this statement doesn't make sense YOHABLO Feb 2017 #10
It is a nice thought but more than likely it is Doreen Feb 2017 #12
WHAT S with this passivity?????????????? Cripes get up from the computer , PICK UP A PHONE & Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2017 #13
Heres the thing - lets get out IN FRONT OF THE coming attacks on SS & medicare, waiting around Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2017 #14
Scrap the cap. tenorly Feb 2017 #16
History /background info on SS Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2017 #20
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