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19. 400% of poverty is $47,520 for a single person
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 02:54 PM
Nov 2016

Last edited Thu Nov 3, 2016, 06:48 PM - Edit history (1)

who also pays a lot in income taxes because some people think that's rich. A $10,320/year premium (and no tax deduction for it) on top of a $6000 deductible and 20% copays is enough to make one have to downsize their life style, like have to sell the house if have big mortgage, or find a cheaper place to rent. The above premium -- what I'm quoted for 2017 -- is a 2.3-fold increase from my ACA premium in 2014 (also unsubsidized).

ETA - Median household income is something like $54,000 ... so its not like a $47,500/year is "upper middle class" let alone "upper class" or "rich".

I too want to see the ACA survive, I've been on it since the beginning, but I really think we're in a death spiral. MN Governor Mark Dayton may have exaggerated when he said it is unaffordable (he was talking about those who make too much to qualify for subsidies), but he's right that it is a huge political problem. Affects a lot of small business people and other self-employed. And as more and more insurance companies cut back on the number of states they offer ACA exchange policies in....

It wouldn't be all that expensive to fix -- only about 5% of the population is on the ACA -- but the Republicans are intransigent on doing anything that will help make it work.

Uninsured Rate at All Time Low [View all] Stuart G Nov 2016 OP
I have never had so many patients w/o any health insurance whatsoever. Mika Nov 2016 #1
Little Marco Rubio elmac Nov 2016 #4
About half zipplewrath Nov 2016 #5
Premiums in Minnesota are going up a lot. mn9driver Nov 2016 #6
If "They don't qualify for subsidies" they aren't using the exchange & 1400 a month is cheap for 2. Sunlei Nov 2016 #8
People making over 400% of the poverty guideline don't qualify for subsidies progree Nov 2016 #16
I know. A person who makes that kind of money doesn't need the gov 'help to pay for their insurance. Sunlei Nov 2016 #18
400% of poverty is $47,520 for a single person progree Nov 2016 #19
I agree 'retail' insurance premium rates are to high. I think the 5? insurance Corps price-set Sunlei Nov 2016 #21
How old os your friend.. busterbrown Nov 2016 #9
He and his wife are 63 mn9driver Nov 2016 #10
Yep we were in the same situation. busterbrown Nov 2016 #12
Its wonderful to have health insurance now, I use the dot gov website & get a subsidy based on Sunlei Nov 2016 #7
If you are young and healthy and getting insurance on the exchanges, that is great! mn9driver Nov 2016 #11
Your right...Goddamnit! busterbrown Nov 2016 #13
Agreed. mn9driver Nov 2016 #14
Single Payer..Single Payer..Single Payer..Single Payer..Single Payer..Yes!!nt Stuart G Nov 2016 #15
It's amazing what you can do by making something mandatory christx30 Nov 2016 #17
My rates will increase $3600.00 for next year. Hurray! Throd Nov 2016 #22
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