Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

karynnj

(59,495 posts)
27. I did not say "nothing to regret" - nor did Secretary Kerry
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:02 AM
Oct 2016

The US in fact did say that it was regrettable. As to it being intentional, it is clear that President Obama chose to back the ceasefire over the advice of many in both the military and the state and defense department. What you are suggesting is that either the military intentionally damaged the President's policy or that the President said one thing in public and something different in private. Yes, CT would love both, but the truth is more likely what was said - a mistake in identifying who was there was made.

Your post has far more propaganda than mine. I have read various sources including the Russian propaganda sites. In particular, I recommend you listen to the Kerry State Department press availability. This was before the Syrian soldiers or the aid convoy was attacked. He does not paint a simplistic picture, that incidentally matches what he says in the leaked tape.

I certainly do not think that all the blame goes to to Russia and Syria. Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states deserve much blame as well. The US is not innocent, but the effort to end the violence by negotiating a diplomatic path out is genuine. I believe in it because it is very obvious that Kerry spend a huge amount of time and effort (his own and that of others) to get the UN resolution and the various ceasefires. Each one was accomplished against tremendous odds - and, if anything, the situation is even less promising now.

Kerry is a very accomplished diplomat and there are many many things he could invest his time and abilities on. Both the Iran deal and the Paris climate change accord, that is likely to come into effect this week after the EU ratifies fulfilling the 2nd requirement of the ratifying nations having over 55% of the carbon, are things that would very likely not have happened without him. The fact that he has doggedly worked on this is clearly done because he is genuinely motivated by the horror that exists.

Putin is inwardly jumping for joy (hates the fact the USSR lost against the world) but outwardly BlueCaliDem Oct 2016 #1
Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #2
why do you care so much? nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2016 #8
Welcome to DU. What happens in Russia only affects Russians? uppityperson Oct 2016 #4
Have you, uh... Been keeping up with what's going on? Blue_Tires Oct 2016 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2016 #6
Yeah, your whole red menace crap is BS. Americans have no problems with Russian citizens. FSogol Oct 2016 #7
another young liberal has gone west nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #9
LOL, "Leave Putin Alone....." FSogol Oct 2016 #10
Poor man. uppityperson Oct 2016 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2016 #11
I have karynnj Oct 2016 #13
Also no one coverage of Kerry prposing mylye2222 Oct 2016 #14
The UN resolution the diplomatic process was under karynnj Oct 2016 #15
Dittto. mylye2222 Oct 2016 #23
Re: going for military solution mallard Oct 2016 #16
Assad is running his daddy's playbook from Hama, but scaled up for Aleppo geek tragedy Oct 2016 #19
I did not say "nothing to regret" - nor did Secretary Kerry karynnj Oct 2016 #27
thanks for your commentary. MBS Oct 2016 #17
the idea of preserving Syria as a nation state was always a folly. geek tragedy Oct 2016 #21
Who would have the authority and legitimacy to define the partitions? karynnj Oct 2016 #28
they should be negotiating those boundaries, not negotiating follies like national elections geek tragedy Oct 2016 #29
Who is "they" and who do "they" negotiate with? karynnj Oct 2016 #32
Both sides believe, with some justification, that this is winner take all, even if all winds up geek tragedy Oct 2016 #33
I agree karynnj Oct 2016 #34
you're right, but it's so difficult to see the scale of the horror geek tragedy Oct 2016 #35
Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #18
Your support for the genocidal dictator in Syria (and the one in Moscow) is duly noted. nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #20
Yea jamzrockz Oct 2016 #22
Who's bombing Aleppo? nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #24
Hmm jamzrockz Oct 2016 #25
Small correction jamzrockz Oct 2016 #26
nauseating apologism for one of the most brutal dictatorships on the planet nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #30
I don't really care what you say about me jamzrockz Oct 2016 #31
Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»U.S. suspends talks with ...»Reply #27