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karynnj

(59,498 posts)
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Mon Oct 3, 2016, 05:04 PM
Oct 2016

This was a deal where the US moved considerably to try to end the bloodshed. The NYT released bits of Kerry speaking in private to the Syrian rebels. What was new in that, but got pretty little coverage was that the agreement allowed Assad to be on the ballot when they would eventually vote. In addition, Kerry in comments given from the State Department explicitly said that the rebels had to separate from Al Nusra -- even saying that allowing any support for Al Nusra was crazy. In fact, the neo cons and right wing attacked Kerry and Obama over those leaks - saying they conceded much too much.

In return, Syria had to allow unfettered access to humanitarian aid. They allowed NOTHING for the first 5 days. This was before the accidental US/Allies attack on the Syrian base. The US quickly acknowledged the mistake in their attack. Notably, they had deconflicted with Russia, but the Russians apparently did not realize that the target was the Syrian army as the information was not precise enough. The US/allies had been striking ISIS in that area .. contrary to some comments from Russian sources.

What broke the ceasefire beyond repair was the attack on the humanitarian convoy that was well marked and known to all. Early reports from Syrian sources said it was "pay back" - ignoring that it was in no way equivalent.

Now, it is clear - Russia and Syria are going for a military solution ... and the utter destruction of parts of Syria.

Putin is inwardly jumping for joy (hates the fact the USSR lost against the world) but outwardly BlueCaliDem Oct 2016 #1
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why do you care so much? nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #3
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Welcome to DU. What happens in Russia only affects Russians? uppityperson Oct 2016 #4
Have you, uh... Been keeping up with what's going on? Blue_Tires Oct 2016 #5
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Yeah, your whole red menace crap is BS. Americans have no problems with Russian citizens. FSogol Oct 2016 #7
another young liberal has gone west nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #9
LOL, "Leave Putin Alone....." FSogol Oct 2016 #10
Poor man. uppityperson Oct 2016 #12
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I have karynnj Oct 2016 #13
Also no one coverage of Kerry prposing mylye2222 Oct 2016 #14
The UN resolution the diplomatic process was under karynnj Oct 2016 #15
Dittto. mylye2222 Oct 2016 #23
Re: going for military solution mallard Oct 2016 #16
Assad is running his daddy's playbook from Hama, but scaled up for Aleppo geek tragedy Oct 2016 #19
I did not say "nothing to regret" - nor did Secretary Kerry karynnj Oct 2016 #27
thanks for your commentary. MBS Oct 2016 #17
the idea of preserving Syria as a nation state was always a folly. geek tragedy Oct 2016 #21
Who would have the authority and legitimacy to define the partitions? karynnj Oct 2016 #28
they should be negotiating those boundaries, not negotiating follies like national elections geek tragedy Oct 2016 #29
Who is "they" and who do "they" negotiate with? karynnj Oct 2016 #32
Both sides believe, with some justification, that this is winner take all, even if all winds up geek tragedy Oct 2016 #33
I agree karynnj Oct 2016 #34
you're right, but it's so difficult to see the scale of the horror geek tragedy Oct 2016 #35
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Your support for the genocidal dictator in Syria (and the one in Moscow) is duly noted. nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #20
Yea jamzrockz Oct 2016 #22
Who's bombing Aleppo? nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #24
Hmm jamzrockz Oct 2016 #25
Small correction jamzrockz Oct 2016 #26
nauseating apologism for one of the most brutal dictatorships on the planet nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #30
I don't really care what you say about me jamzrockz Oct 2016 #31
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