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3. Protests in Athens turn violent

Wed Jul 15, 2015, 02:44 PM

Jul 2015

Last edited Wed Jul 15, 2015, 03:20 PM - Edit history (1)

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Motolov cocktails have been let off, and the police are now tear-gassing the crowd

http://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2015/jul/15/greek-crisis-mps-bailout-imf-debt-relief-alexis-tsipras-live#block-55a6a386e4b07f297df302b9

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Clashes break out at Athens anti-austerity march [View all] Bosonic Jul 2015 OP

I kind of figured the action would move to the streets. KamaAina Jul 2015 #1

I surprised it took this long. Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #2

me too J_J_ Jul 2015 #22

Protests in Athens turn violent Baclava Jul 2015 #3

I don't know if I'd want to run a German business in Greece right now. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #4

You think folks would blame the schnitzel salesman for Merkel's loan conditions? Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #30

Tsipras facing eurozone deal revolt Baclava Jul 2015 #5

I just don't see how that is going to change anythin, but dig a deeper hole. Nobody wants austerity. Hoyt Jul 2015 #6

The quickest way out of this mess is debt relief and a repayment moratorium GliderGuider Jul 2015 #10

I agree 100% with the repayment moratorium but what do you do to get cstanleytech Jul 2015 #11

they have instituted the required austerity, which is what crushed their economy magical thyme Jul 2015 #17

No, what crushed them is their economy is a tourist based one similar to Puerto Rico. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #32

wrong on many counts. Sorry, but I'll take Krugman over an anonymous poster any day. magical thyme Jul 2015 #34

The US model in your example is a poor one to use unless the EU was setup to do that. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #35

That is my point. (And you're confusing the European Union with the Eurozone) magical thyme Jul 2015 #38

Yes nothing build with "now" but if they get an extension on that debt so that they do not cstanleytech Jul 2015 #40

Which is what the Troika flatly refuses to do. magical thyme Jul 2015 #43

Oh they are going kick scream over it but I dont believe they have a realistic choice but to do so cstanleytech Jul 2015 #44

Greece did the prior reforms. The Troika refused to give any debt relief all along, magical thyme Jul 2015 #45

"Greece did the prior reforms." Not according to the IMF. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #48

ok, everything I've seen now says they did. But then, there is also this from the IMF: magical thyme Jul 2015 #49

Ya they messed up somewhat but so did Greece as the IMF did say that if Greece had complied cstanleytech Jul 2015 #50

and the IMF said the Greeks were in uncharted territory with the extent of tax increases & austerity magical thyme Jul 2015 #51

Except Greece forgave that and they cannot take it back. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #52

no. the war reparations and the forgiven reconstruction loans are 2 different things. magical thyme Jul 2015 #53

Your second sentence hits on one of their core problems metalbot Jul 2015 #54

you raised the question...you answer it. magical thyme Jul 2015 #55

The ports are helpful metalbot Jul 2015 #56

and why did the Troika choose cover private bank losses with public debt? nt magical thyme Jul 2015 #57

Completely different issue metalbot Jul 2015 #58

you don't know that taxing the shipping industry would kill it (although I'm sure the 1% shippers magical thyme Jul 2015 #59

Well, they've had time to make government and economic reforms. They failed. Hoyt Jul 2015 #13

So, we let them die? nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #15

Who is going to let them die? Probably is time for a special election or somethin? Hoyt Jul 2015 #16

Everything dies, stars, planets, animals, people. Everything ends eventually even the universe. nt cstanleytech Jul 2015 #18

Well, I don't want the Troika to turn off the sun either... nt GliderGuider Jul 2015 #20

Well they cant do that nor can they really save Greece either, only the Greek people can. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #24

They can keep from making the Greeks' recovery more difficult. GliderGuider Jul 2015 #25

Yes they could but they also have helped before dont forget and Greece failed to follow through on cstanleytech Jul 2015 #27

A country isn't a single person. GliderGuider Jul 2015 #39

Debt is debt though regardless of if its a person or a country. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #41

they instituted the required reforms. The austerity without debt relief failed, as the IMF magical thyme Jul 2015 #46

Forgive all of Greece's debt tomorrow and their economy still can't sustain a Euro peg Recursion Jul 2015 #36

makeing a bad situation worse--but i can not say i blame them or am surpised dembotoz Jul 2015 #7

It's what some always do. Igel Jul 2015 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #8

There will be more people on the street if parliament votes to accept the terms Ilios Meows Jul 2015 #12

"Austerity" is of the 1% crushing the rest of us bread_and_roses Jul 2015 #14

Its not always about the 1%. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #28

Yes, it is always about the 1% when it comes to $$ bread_and_roses Jul 2015 #29

Thanks, its nice to know we can jettison math so easy. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #31

Parliament voting now; BBC link UPDATE PASSED Yo_Mama Jul 2015 #19

Of course they approved the bailout - will the rebellion spread outside Athens though? Baclava Jul 2015 #33

Did anyone see Yanis Varoufakis' recent interview? cemaphonic Jul 2015 #21

I wonder how many of the same protesters would be complaining about exiting the EU? FLPanhandle Jul 2015 #23

Exactly. There are going to be protests no matter what. And protests aren't Hoyt Jul 2015 #26

But an exit offers them more control Recursion Jul 2015 #37

EU taxpayers are not footing their deficit. They are bailing out the French, German magical thyme Jul 2015 #47

Hmmm ... that'll help bring in those tourist Euros ... Nihil Jul 2015 #42