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IDemo

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Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:51 PM Apr 2012

Former Congresswoman: Not too late to hold Bush and Cheney accountable [View all]

Source: RawStory

Former Rep. Elizabeth Holtzman (D-NY) told MSNBC’s Martin Bashir on Thursday that former President George W. Bush and former Vice President Dick Cheney could still be held accountable for violating federal criminal statues.

“As a former prosecutor and a former member of the House Judiciary Committee during Watergate, I spent a lot of time taking a look at the statues,” she explained. “It’s one thing to abuse power, and it’s one thing not to do the right thing, but it’s another thing to commit a crime.”

Holtzman said Bush and Cheney appear to have “knowingly” violated at least three statues.

She said Bush and Cheney likely committed conspiracy to defraud the United States, for the “deceptions” involved in going to war with Iraq. Secondly, she claimed they violated federal statues regarding the wiretapping of Americans without a court order. Thirdly, Holtzman said Bush and Cheney violated federal laws prohibiting torture.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/19/former-congresswoman-not-too-late-to-hold-bush-and-cheney-accountable/

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Good grief. madamesilverspurs Apr 2012 #1
Just be glade they didn't poster itch which and iPhone L. Coyote Apr 2012 #5
You hadn't heard? IDemo Apr 2012 #8
I thought that was Ashcroft n/t SnohoDem Apr 2012 #13
http://instantrimshot.com/ harmonicon Apr 2012 #23
statue sex?? this sub-thread is worthless without photos. chknltl Apr 2012 #40
Also during that era Congress exempted on the wiretapping. You know, that wonderful Patriot Act... freshwest Apr 2012 #17
Seinfeld said it best... Javaman Apr 2012 #22
This one was violated so often it had to be covered up! PassingFair Apr 2012 #25
Lovely way to distract from the truth of the Congresswoman's statements. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #30
It's about WAR CRIMES, not spelling. just1voice Apr 2012 #35
Thank you AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2012 #41
I wish they would stop teasing us Politicalboi Apr 2012 #2
Agreed its just not going to happen for a number of reasons but I wish it could happen cstanleytech Apr 2012 #4
If we could get a bona fide progressive in office in 2016 perhaps it could happen. I don't know if totodeinhere Apr 2012 #11
I dont believe that would work because without the support of both houses you wont cstanleytech Apr 2012 #29
Actually, the Justice Department would have jurisdiction here, not Congress. totodeinhere Apr 2012 #32
I am not talking about "say" but rather influence and the congress and senate hold alot of influence cstanleytech Apr 2012 #42
i love it marshall gaines Apr 2012 #3
From her lips to gawd's ears. loudsue Apr 2012 #6
Did she comment about killing (without trial) US citizens with hellfire missiles? 24601 Apr 2012 #7
It's not murder when the president does it. nt. harmonicon Apr 2012 #24
If the purported crimes involve nothing more than deceiving the US into war and torturing indepat Apr 2012 #9
What happened to "Hope" in this thread? AnotherDreamWeaver Apr 2012 #10
This open wound will never heal without treatment. annabanana Apr 2012 #12
So true, I've been saying for years that war crimes just don't go away just1voice Apr 2012 #34
Editors aside (your fired), Dick clearly made sure he'll be around long to go to jail PatrynXX Apr 2012 #14
Pfft. I ain't holding my breath. progressoid Apr 2012 #15
'...have "knowingly" violated at least three statues.' unkachuck Apr 2012 #16
+1000, the rich mostly get off, if ever charged with a crime wordpix Apr 2012 #20
Because it is just one persons opinion? hack89 Apr 2012 #27
"likely committed conspiracy"? Domingo Tavella Apr 2012 #18
er, the word is "statutes" not "statues," geesh wordpix Apr 2012 #19
The Bush cartel The Wizard Apr 2012 #21
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #26
The only thing that could take down Cheney is a gigantic magnet next to his pacemaker, otherwise firehorse Apr 2012 #28
Now THERE is a "Democrat" who will get a donation from me. bvar22 Apr 2012 #31
But 'Bama says we need to look to the future panzerfaust Apr 2012 #33
What was that oath of office again? polichick Apr 2012 #38
Play hardbal, prez, DO IT! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2012 #36
Aren't Congress and the President supposed to be about "justice for all"... polichick Apr 2012 #37
There are huge political risks associated with trying Bush and Cheney RZM Apr 2012 #39
If the case was made against Cheney, Bush and Rumsfeld too truedelphi Apr 2012 #43
I'm not saying it's right, just speculating how it would go down RZM Apr 2012 #44
Disagree Mosaic Apr 2012 #45
LOL. Who says we're fighting? RZM Apr 2012 #46
There are huge risks to not prosecuting too. JoeyT Apr 2012 #47
"When all is said and done, would that be worth it?" panzerfaust Apr 2012 #48
So politics should trump "justice for all" and the rule of law?? polichick Apr 2012 #49
That all depends on your perspective RZM Apr 2012 #50
Well, we're just a banana republic if war crimes don't matter... polichick Apr 2012 #51
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