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Bernardo de La Paz

(48,999 posts)
48. NO. Started with Birchers & fluoridation & Nixon & tanks & Gingrich & Fox & W & Palin. In other
Tue Nov 28, 2017, 07:10 PM
Nov 2017

In other words, it is the culmination of a long effort by Republicons.

John Birch Society members had that same crazed conspiracy anti-gubmnt gleam founded on some racism and a lot of nonsense. They overlapped with the fear-mongering anti-fluoridation nuts.

Nixon brought in the Southern Strategy because he agreed with Johnson's assessment of the costs of his Civil Rights legislation.

Johnson reportedly told associates of his concern that signing the bill had lost the white South as voters for the Democratic Party for the foreseeable future. -- Wikipedia


https://cehdvision2020.umn.edu/blog/conservative-think-tanks/
How Conservative Think Tanks Helped Create the Age of Trump
Fri Aug 12, 2016 by Jason Stahl, Ph.D.
The Heritage Foundation was founded in 1973 by Paul Weyrich, Edwin Feulner, and Joseph Coors.[6] Growing out of the new business activist movement inspired by the Powell Memorandum,[7][8] discontent with Richard Nixon's embrace of the "liberal consensus" and the nonpolemical, cautious nature of existing think tanks,[9] Weyrich and Feulner sought to create an organization that would supply policymakers with concise, timely position papers. With $200,000 from Coors, the Analysis and Research Association was created in 1970. New supporters and board members joined, including petroleum executive Edward Noble and Richard Mellon Scaife. Eventually, the organization split into a public interest law center and a separate public policy foundation, the latter of which was incorporated as The Heritage Foundation on February 16, 1973. Weyrich was its first president. -- Wikipedia


Think tanks developed the idea of framing the language, a way to dumb down political debate. Gingrich embraced this. Republicons started talking about "death taxes" instead of estate taxes and "pro-life" instead of anti-abortion rights.

George Lakoff: https://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/10/27_lakoff.shtml

Karl Rove very explicitly preferred to win by a more secured slim majority than going for a possible larger majority. This greatly increased polarization in the country which reduces debates to shouts of "commie" and "fascist".

Fox News pushed a faux viewpoint and the rest of the mass media generally obliged because they like horse races for increased viewership leading to increased advertising sales leading to increased profits.

Palin was the "dumb as rocks" flint arrowhead, not the wood behind the arrowhead. A wedge and a "Caribou Barbie" to appeal emotionally.

So, no, Palin & Schmidt were not the cause or the first.
You do have a point there. TreasonousBastard Nov 2017 #1
Yes, I think you might be right about Palin. I blame Bannon too... FM123 Nov 2017 #2
Dumbya proved anyone could be president. lpbk2713 Nov 2017 #3
#AnyFuckingBody. Thor_MN Nov 2017 #43
I think it started with Ronald Reagan. The dumb ass part livetohike Nov 2017 #4
+1 jberryhill Nov 2017 #5
yep...... fantase56 Nov 2017 #9
While Eisenhower was a gem compared to modern Republicans NewJeffCT Nov 2017 #14
Christ on a cracker I HOPE Trump is the nadir. Neema Nov 2017 #46
Eisenhower wasn't stupid, and he wasn't really a politician FakeNoose Nov 2017 #65
Yep. Him and Lee Atwater. GoCubsGo Nov 2017 #28
You Bet ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #51
You made me smile. My Dad always referred to Reagan livetohike Nov 2017 #56
+1 Exactly. n/t FSogol Nov 2017 #57
No. Back in the 1970s when the centimillionaire and Hortensis Nov 2017 #6
I believe it began 27 years ago with with Gingrich, DeLay and Hate Radio. LanternWaste Nov 2017 #7
Yes - The GOP Mesmerized the Religious Right - until Terri Shaivo died. hexola Nov 2017 #73
Began with Raygun. kairos12 Nov 2017 #8
Yup wryter2000 Nov 2017 #15
Nope , it started with Newt Gingrich. octoberlib Nov 2017 #10
Ahh yes . Newt's Contract for America put the poor in slave labor camps Wwcd Nov 2017 #19
Reagan, Ford, Bush I, and Nixon Sucked, Too Leith Nov 2017 #11
Not sure what you're referring to loyalsister Nov 2017 #12
It started with Nixon marylandblue Nov 2017 #13
Nixon's The One! bonemachine Nov 2017 #35
He intentionally used a picture of Nixon throwing a foul ball, correct? jmowreader Nov 2017 #55
Precisely. Reagan's foot soldiers all came out of the Nixon administration... VOX Nov 2017 #72
As the alt-right was growing. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #16
Chicken and egg genxlib Nov 2017 #17
Palin's Tea Party is funded by the Kochs. Wwcd Nov 2017 #18
Ronald Reagan was just as ignorant and racist as Trump. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #20
Exactly! He was stupid enough to promote the Religious Right in the first place RainCaster Nov 2017 #32
I don't see anyone blaming theaocp Nov 2017 #21
"Does anyone else feel this all started with Sarah Palin"? Hayduke Bomgarte Nov 2017 #22
palin paved the way for bannon AlexSFCA Nov 2017 #23
I think it started with Reagan. The St. Ronnie cult grew and grew and grew and Vinca Nov 2017 #24
For me, it started in 1974... yallerdawg Nov 2017 #25
As far as putting a completely unqualified candidate on the ballot - to some extent. LisaM Nov 2017 #26
Don't forget Dan Quayle DBoon Nov 2017 #40
AKA Mr. Potatoe crazycatlady Nov 2017 #41
No, it was way before that. More like nixon, who begot raygun and so on and so forth. kydo Nov 2017 #27
It really started with the early reptiles. byronius Nov 2017 #29
! Kali Nov 2017 #34
Yeah. Corvo Bianco Nov 2017 #54
How's that drumpf thingie workin' for ya? democratisphere Nov 2017 #30
Newt. marybourg Nov 2017 #31
Reagan. He lied like a mo' fo' and the press (even some Democrats) covered for his Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2017 #33
another vote for ray-gun Kali Nov 2017 #36
Having her on the ticket certainly contributed... 3catwoman3 Nov 2017 #37
It started in earnest on March 30, 1981, at a few moments after 3 pm EST . . . Journeyman Nov 2017 #38
Powell Manifesto. There's your initial blueprint. Efilroft Sul Nov 2017 #39
No , It started when the fucking MSM covered and kacekwl Nov 2017 #42
It was seemingly the moment where GOP ultimately decided Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2017 #44
I think the roots of the modern problem were with Joe McCarthy DFW Nov 2017 #45
I see it starting with Raygun the hand puppet Raine Nov 2017 #47
NO. Started with Birchers & fluoridation & Nixon & tanks & Gingrich & Fox & W & Palin. In other Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2017 #48
Your post says it the best for me. The greedy and deceitful have always The Wielding Truth Nov 2017 #59
The transition in the gop from Ford a decent man to Ronnie a fucking asshole dembotoz Nov 2017 #49
Newt Gingrich n/t jaysunb Nov 2017 #50
To some extent, yes. NanceGreggs Nov 2017 #52
The end of the fairness doctrine is a big part of the problem and Botany Nov 2017 #53
YES. The end of the Fairness Doctrine opened the door to bad journalism. The Wielding Truth Nov 2017 #62
It is really hard to fathom the out and out crap that people are now being and have .... Botany Nov 2017 #68
No. This goes back to southern strategy and even before JI7 Nov 2017 #58
There are a lot of interesting answers on this thread. Here is another: Oliver North StevieM Nov 2017 #60
Once they saw how deeply foolish a candidate could be and still be applegrove Nov 2017 #61
the right-wing movement has many founders, but hate radio, then foxnews are greatly important. unblock Nov 2017 #63
Reagan - the white conservative GOD walkingman Nov 2017 #64
No, much earlier. Palin was a halfway house. JHB Nov 2017 #66
yeah. alphafemale Nov 2017 #67
Reagan made greed and stupidity fashionable Skittles Nov 2017 #69
Reagan was the watershed. PufPuf23 Nov 2017 #70
I'll take the long view. moondust Nov 2017 #71
I also blame Schmidt & Wallace for glorifying deplorables but.. Books_Tea_Alone Nov 2017 #74
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