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karynnj

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16. Both the Paris climate change accord and the Iran deal are
Sat Nov 18, 2017, 03:20 AM
Nov 2017

Also his legacy. The Paris Accord is a very significant achievement because it was signed by all but two countries, that have now joined it. Even though Trump signalled that we are withdrawing, the rest of the world is moving together. This would not have happened without Kerry and without Obama agreeing.

The Iran deal likely avoided an imminent war. It is true that Trump, Saudi Arabia and Israel will lead us to war anyway, but that does not mean Obama and Kerry did not accomplish a goal that was thought unlikey. If we get through Trump's term without war, it will likely be because the military sees the status quo as better than several years ago.

How will Obama be remembered? [View all] MatthewG. Nov 2017 OP
Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #1
Im a former Obama volunteer MatthewG. Nov 2017 #2
I don't think he was perfect, either. Aristus Nov 2017 #3
OK, well thats different. MatthewG. Nov 2017 #6
I have notice that the smarter conservatives Big Blue Marble Nov 2017 #11
Me too. MatthewG. Nov 2017 #12
I think he will be remembered as a great President who shared the applegrove Nov 2017 #4
Lol. Sad but true about Trump. MatthewG. Nov 2017 #14
As possibly the last President freely elected by the American people and not the byproduct of jcmaine72 Nov 2017 #5
Lets hope not... MatthewG. Nov 2017 #7
As someone who reeked BeyondGeography Nov 2017 #8
Agreed. Snackshack Nov 2017 #9
It is so difficult to judge the historical significance of any presidency Big Blue Marble Nov 2017 #10
Part of the problem with judging Obama... MatthewG. Nov 2017 #13
Both the Paris climate change accord and the Iran deal are karynnj Nov 2017 #16
Iran Deal was a big deal... MatthewG. Nov 2017 #17
I think Carter gets too little credit for the Camp David Accord karynnj Nov 2017 #38
"Judging Obama" CakeGrrl Nov 2017 #20
+1000 Hekate Nov 2017 #21
Just wanted friendly debate MatthewG. Nov 2017 #46
He fulfilled his commitment to me as a citizen with dignity and class. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #15
I'm with you. annabanana Nov 2017 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author LovingA2andMI Nov 2017 #18
He was an excellent President in the face of unprecedented racism and obstruction. CakeGrrl Nov 2017 #19
Best president of my 70 years. Exceptional character and intelligence, zero scandals or indictments Hekate Nov 2017 #22
I agree... Pres. Obama was a great president in my view. He saved my husband's job (autos) and Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #31
Wonderful reply. I wish we could recommend responses. Nt karynnj Nov 2017 #39
+ 1000 greatauntoftriplets Nov 2017 #40
Agree 100% SharonClark Nov 2017 #41
Thats a little unfair. MatthewG. Nov 2017 #42
As a good husband and father, a level-headed and moderate leader misanthrope Nov 2017 #23
I think you are wrong...LGBTQ marriage and a healthcare plan for the uninsured make President Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #29
If there is any justice left in this world... goldwax317 Nov 2017 #24
Health care and saving the economy make him a great president...consider that Roosevelt's two Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #28
LBJ gave us Medicare, not FDR. GoCubsGo Nov 2017 #34
I know that thanks I mistyped...will fix...the point is all three... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #35
He will be rememberd as one of the several presidents that saved the nation. patricia92243 Nov 2017 #25
I will remember president Obama as the greatest president I knew TEB Nov 2017 #26
Really? Obama like Roosevelt saved the economy...and he also gave us healthcare which is now Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #27
Not trying to attack Obama MatthewG. Nov 2017 #43
It is appropriate to discuss his legacy...but it sure feels like bad mouthing a person whom I Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #48
OK, noted. MatthewG. Nov 2017 #49
It might not be you to be fair...there are some here who do this carefully so as not to Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #56
I appreciate this. MatthewG. Nov 2017 #57
As a president stripped of his legacy sweetroxie Nov 2017 #32
Great. That's how. And even better then raygun. kydo Nov 2017 #33
Being better than Raygun is a pretty low bar to set. GoCubsGo Nov 2017 #36
I didn't make the comment because I thought st raygun was a good president. kydo Nov 2017 #37
Reagan wasnt even that liked when he left office MatthewG. Nov 2017 #45
I think Obama will be remembered as a great president who made one huge mistake. StevieM Nov 2017 #44
Good point MatthewG. Nov 2017 #47
By GOP idiots as a traitor, by intelligent people as the best president ever! nt USALiberal Nov 2017 #50
Mt. Rushmore president nt Irish_Dem Nov 2017 #51
I am very much afraid he will be remembered as the last legitimate President of the United States rzemanfl Nov 2017 #52
Lets hope not! MatthewG. Nov 2017 #53
Putin isn't sloppy. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2017 #54
The adult in the room. GentryDixon Nov 2017 #55
Will benefit from being between Bush and Trump D_Master81 Nov 2017 #58
I think youre right. MatthewG. Nov 2017 #59
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