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RandomAccess

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132. Please get over the idea that
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 09:28 PM
Nov 2017

facts = bashing.

And the corollary that our leaders are above reproach and should never be criticized.

That's NOT a position of strength, but of weakness. Only when we face the truth can be move forward with any real success.

Stop bashing Hillary. [View all] onecaliberal Nov 2017 OP
Amen. MontanaMama Nov 2017 #1
Amen! Me too! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #20
Me three! calimary Nov 2017 #71
IDK! Are the Hillary bashers Sen Sanders' supporters or Russian trolls? TheDebbieDee Nov 2017 #2
Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #32
Yep. calimary Nov 2017 #41
With what we know now PatSeg Nov 2017 #47
I've been wondering that same thing myself. Amimnoch Nov 2017 #118
Yes PatSeg Nov 2017 #122
I don't see anyone bashing Hillary.She is a part of history now onit2day Nov 2017 #73
Agree with everthing you said. KPN Nov 2017 #74
It happens all the time Hillary, Nancy (Pelosi also other Dems) and the Democratic Party are all Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #76
Some of each I think...and also right wing trolls. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #75
Except DownriverDem Nov 2017 #92
This is helping? Twisty Nov 2017 #103
That is what I would like to know. LiberalFighter Nov 2017 #115
This is a valid question that will be dissected in some study years from now. joshcryer Nov 2017 #121
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when there are national news stories about dems, mopinko Nov 2017 #4
I don't think excerpts from someone's book is "national news", in many cases it's anecdotal. George II Nov 2017 #10
She was the DNC chair. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #18
She's expressing her opinion, and what we've seen so far are selected excerpts. George II Nov 2017 #28
Agree! maddiemom Nov 2017 #49
The GOP has to cheat in order to win FakeNoose Nov 2017 #70
I still think, sometimes, how gerrymandering in Ohio got rid of Dennis Kucinech in 2012. maddiemom Nov 2017 #97
are you visiting that river in Egypt again? virtualobserver Nov 2017 #77
No, I'm facing reality. George II Nov 2017 #85
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What article are you referring to? George II Nov 2017 #89
Actually I heard something about that on my favorite NPR radio station: George II Nov 2017 #98
The press seems to think this is national news bathroommonkey76 Nov 2017 #81
Not really. She's telling us that she saw an Agreement scipan Nov 2017 #114
No! Some writer is stating an opinion of what they thought Ms Brazile TheDebbieDee Nov 2017 #83
LOL! virtualobserver Nov 2017 #88
Wow Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #90
Then read it in her own words: scipan Nov 2017 #113
she still is a Clinton supporter. Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #125
Well, then she's throwing Hillary under the bus in order to sell books! TheDebbieDee Nov 2017 #130
DB said the agreement gave HRC control of the partys finances, strategy, and all the money raised. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #131
and as DNC chair she knew exactly this was b.s and was giving Trump what he needed to fire Sessions GeneMcM Nov 2017 #143
YES! I absolutely hate it. EOM elfin Nov 2017 #5
The way I see it BainsBane Nov 2017 #6
Second this motion. eom planetc Nov 2017 #7
Sounds about right. byronius Nov 2017 #68
There's a difference between "all" and "primarily" Baconator Nov 2017 #105
What does it accomplish at this point? BainsBane Nov 2017 #111
Hopefully it hammers it into people's heads... Baconator Nov 2017 #133
What mistakes are you talking about? BainsBane Nov 2017 #140
Literal books have been written on the topic... Baconator Nov 2017 #141
I figured the mistakes BainsBane Nov 2017 #142
Calm down... Baconator Nov 2017 #144
I think its fine to criticize her campaign and her politics. David__77 Nov 2017 #8
Yes, Yes & yes! peggysue2 Nov 2017 #9
YES! THIS! maddiemom Nov 2017 #34
Amen! calimary Nov 2017 #40
It is victim blaming blur256 Nov 2017 #129
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2017 #11
Agree Jim Dandy Nov 2017 #12
It's high on the third-party agenda too. LisaM Nov 2017 #50
The Green Party and Jill Stein are Putin puppets Jim Dandy Nov 2017 #63
Republicans have spent decades and over a billion dollars trashing her. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #13
every time a Clinton article is read, posted, responded to AmandaRuth Nov 2017 #14
Or stir shit up calimary Nov 2017 #38
Actions that occurred within our own party divided and damaged it during the primary. AtheistCrusader Nov 2017 #15
This is not a personal relationship! treestar Nov 2017 #24
We should be a more unified group. AtheistCrusader Nov 2017 #31
Well said (#15). TryLogic Nov 2017 #30
thanks for a calm and reasoned outlook Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #126
Thank you NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #16
Indeed. calimary Nov 2017 #36
As I see it from the bottom rung... sagesnow Nov 2017 #17
The few threads that I see PDittie Nov 2017 #19
"Bashing" is different from stating facts, isn't it? Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #23
Indeed PDittie Nov 2017 #25
But Bernie ISNT a Democrat. calimary Nov 2017 #35
Irrelevant. He was running in our primary. The events discussed in the OP happened during the primar AtheistCrusader Nov 2017 #54
Bernie is not part of the Democratic Party and will not be the nominee in 20...he is a Senator who Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #79
It's not about him. It's about our ability to run a fair primary. AtheistCrusader Nov 2017 #86
Our primary was fair. First of all. We are not supposed to discuss the primary...but I will say Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #99
Wrong, we are not supposed to re-fight the primary. AtheistCrusader Nov 2017 #102
I agree, up to a point. But we don't want to hide from the truth. "The truth will set you free." Honeycombe8 Nov 2017 #21
YES! treestar Nov 2017 #22
Wait. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #93
In that yes, getting out to vote treestar Nov 2017 #127
Alert on those murielm99 Nov 2017 #26
tell it to Ms. Brazille. nt tomp Nov 2017 #27
K&R Gothmog Nov 2017 #29
and some still insist there is no I rift within the party. tomp Nov 2017 #33
If some choose not to vote for Democrats in the age of Trump...the only Party that can stop him and Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #84
nice way to avoid the issue of my post. tomp Nov 2017 #119
Letting the Rs win because the Ds are not good enough treestar Nov 2017 #128
I am morbidly curious to know Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #37
Me too! calimary Nov 2017 #42
we will still blame in on the Clinton's Fresh_Start Nov 2017 #44
Exactly. This isn't about HRC, and it's bigger than just Hillary. AtheistCrusader Nov 2017 #57
Thank you! Well said Thekaspervote Nov 2017 #39
Agreed. Nitram Nov 2017 #43
The trolls always follow whatever Fox News is focusing on. C Moon Nov 2017 #45
yes, (R)TV fox- it's PATHETIC the current president HAS to call into fox DAILY & run foxTV 24/7. Sunlei Nov 2017 #58
Seeing that station for 2 seconds makes me sick to my stomach. C Moon Nov 2017 #65
Even 8ish or more years ago, was so obvious foxTV was an arm of the Republican party. Sunlei Nov 2017 #69
I too have to wonder what cause is being served by the self Enoki33 Nov 2017 #46
I agree it is time to put Hillary into the past. HopeAgain Nov 2017 #48
She's strong, a Hero. I admire, respect & Love Hillary Clinton more every day of Rs "persecution" Sunlei Nov 2017 #51
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"Start Bashing DWS" left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #55
I for one can see the difference The Mouth Nov 2017 #53
She's not POTUS, so I agree. Not relevant at this point, beating a dead horse, etc. YoungDemCA Nov 2017 #56
This isn't about Hillary. It's about the Democratic Primary, of which we will have another. AtheistCrusader Nov 2017 #95
Another 'Stir the Pot' post ? left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #59
Just part of the cleansing process tiredtoo Nov 2017 #60
Exactly...This.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2017 #62
ICAM. Thank you lunamagica Nov 2017 #61
I am a Bernie fan. But I don't bash Hillary. I supported and voted for Hillary. PurgedVoter Nov 2017 #64
Watch or rewatch Trumpland to gain perspectives on Hillary Pepsidog Nov 2017 #66
I agree, loved "Trumpland" . Hillary said about MM, "I'm his biggest fan". Sunlei Nov 2017 #72
A-Fucking-Men! hamsterjill Nov 2017 #67
K & f'ing R! mcar Nov 2017 #78
Thank you Sunsky Nov 2017 #80
Good advice. MontanaMama Nov 2017 #82
100% Agree DownriverDem Nov 2017 #91
Thumbs Up lamp_shade Nov 2017 #94
Personally, I think people need to stop bashing both Hillary and Bernie. Period lovemydogs Nov 2017 #96
Yep. klook Nov 2017 #120
k&R yortsed snacilbuper Nov 2017 #100
I agree...Hillary is over BeyondGeography Nov 2017 #101
It needs to be dissected and spread wide open... Baconator Nov 2017 #104
A lot of the people doing it have less than 500 posts. redstatebluegirl Nov 2017 #106
so we shouldn't get our own house in order? Cobalt Violet Nov 2017 #137
Wonder if we have some divisive intruders keeping the Hillary bashing alive? triron Nov 2017 #107
I definitely agree. I just dont understand the need for some onecaliberal Nov 2017 #110
amen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! trueblue2007 Nov 2017 #108
kick for visibility triron Nov 2017 #109
Thank you Heartstrings Nov 2017 #112
Hating is what the GOP does..... BlueJac Nov 2017 #116
After watching the documentary, Putins Revenge on PBS Nightline... Hulk Nov 2017 #117
Ding, ding, ding, .... L. Coyote Nov 2017 #124
Honestly, whatever Hillary may or may not have done, at this point in time, Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2017 #123
Amen! My feelings exactly marlakay Nov 2017 #135
Please get over the idea that RandomAccess Nov 2017 #132
Why bash either candidate? hadEnuf Nov 2017 #134
Are you trying to control free speech? It's not up to you or anyone jillan Nov 2017 #136
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #145
Who Needs Russia When We Have Bitter Bernie Supporters? dlk Nov 2017 #138
But Brazile wasn't a Bernie Supporter ! OnDoutside Nov 2017 #139
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