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In reply to the discussion: I believe it is correct to criticize Bernie when he disrespects my party. [View all]thesquanderer
(11,972 posts)146. That's basically the same quote as your last one.
The newspaper gave it a sensationalistic headline, but it's the same thing he said before. Let's just stick with Sanders' words. Not someone editorializing about what he said (in a headline or otherwise). Not the words of someone else who claims to speak for him (if indeed Nina Turner has claimed that as you suggest, I don't know). Just *his* words. And this article had basically the same thing you already provided i.e.:
The current model and the current strategy of the Democratic party is an absolute failure, Sanders said.
The Democratic party needs fundamental change. What it needs is to open up its doors to working people, and young people, and older people who are prepared to fight for social and economic justice.
The Democratic party must understand what side it is on. And that cannot be the side of Wall Street, or the fossil fuel industry, or the drug companies.
The Democratic party needs fundamental change. What it needs is to open up its doors to working people, and young people, and older people who are prepared to fight for social and economic justice.
The Democratic party must understand what side it is on. And that cannot be the side of Wall Street, or the fossil fuel industry, or the drug companies.
Dems like Elizabeth Warren and Sherrod Brown could have given very much the same speech, IMO. Certainly that last paragraph. Sanders may be more dramatic in his delivery, but the point is the same.
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I believe it is correct to criticize Bernie when he disrespects my party. [View all]
boston bean
Sep 2017
OP
Yeah. So. you and think he meant three lowly house member who in 2017 are not voting
boston bean
Sep 2017
#18
I think Sanders needs to stop the attacks on the party. That is what I think.
boston bean
Sep 2017
#103
These are criticisms that should be shared within the Democratic Party leadership.
Fla Dem
Sep 2017
#170
But this is ridiculous, Bernie says that, attacks the D party and you say it is
Eliot Rosewater
Sep 2017
#211
Link to where he stated this please, where these are the people he is talking about.
sheshe2
Sep 2017
#13
Well, if we're picking issues, didn't he vote against gun control several times?
George II
Sep 2017
#209
You need money for a Senatorial campaign...there is nothing wrong with it...if you can't show
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#237
hmmmmm. Votes are recorded as facts. Almost evry single democrat votes the same way so
boston bean
Sep 2017
#88
American voters have huge support for the military and their representatives reflect that.
bettyellen
Sep 2017
#89
Bernie takes his F-16 money, same as the rest of them. Kuchinch of Dept of Peace fame....
bettyellen
Sep 2017
#95
Yet Bernie takes his pork for his state for a reason.... you know that. What people want cut is ....
bettyellen
Sep 2017
#190
I know people think this "15 Trilion Dollar Boondoggle" and waste of military spending is fine but..
bettyellen
Sep 2017
#255
Blue dogs in red states...your point? They all voted for it this year when it counted.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#243
That's the TRUTH and smart people who are being honest and not in denial KNOW it.
m-lekktor
Sep 2017
#21
also.... "The current model of the Democratic Party obviously is not working"
lancelyons
Sep 2017
#265
She said in the interview there is no national leader until a president is elected.
boston bean
Sep 2017
#35
But if you cut out what she said before and what she said after that "leadership" quote...
George II
Sep 2017
#43
Oh she said his name alright. Said it first when asked "Who's the leader of the Democratic party"
berni_mccoy
Sep 2017
#63
Give the exact verbatim response. Because she spoke with an emphasis on ideas. Not on the persons.
boston bean
Sep 2017
#65
I just told you why i think you are wrong. Can you respond to that? It is not at odds with her
boston bean
Sep 2017
#72
Agreed, but you won't hear a peep on that truth. They'd rather ignore common sense...
brush
Sep 2017
#114
He has not done much of that? I could come up with at least a dozen things he's said, but since....
George II
Sep 2017
#49
Yesterday: "The current model of the Democratic Party obviously is not working", and he didn't....
George II
Sep 2017
#58
Well, we gained seats in the Senate and House AND we "won" the presidency in 2016. How...
George II
Sep 2017
#104
Once again, in 2016 we gained seats in the House and Senate. Obama wasn't a candidate in 2016.
George II
Sep 2017
#261
Sure Warren and Brown COULD have....But they are Democrats who would rather build the party than
MrsCoffee
Sep 2017
#163
So whether the message is or is not legitimate depends on the messenger? (n/t)
thesquanderer
Sep 2017
#204
Perhaps then you could explain the many Kamela Harris, Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein posts...
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#244
Like it or not, many believe Bernie is currently among those in the front seats.
thesquanderer
Sep 2017
#56
Is that your take?? It takes all kinds to make the workd go round they say.
boston bean
Sep 2017
#100
100+ recs, 200+ responses. Nice "backfire" BB. It think you made your point fairly strongly.
George II
Sep 2017
#208
You seem to find that it is correct to critize Sanders under any circumstances.
CentralMass
Sep 2017
#111
We had a real stolen election. You remember the reason this website was founded?
boston bean
Sep 2017
#119
You mean like the time he said the DNC was "worthless" under Debbie Wasserman Schultz?
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2017
#116
Good grief. Comparing the Democratic Party (and its leadership) to goose-stepping Nazis?
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#194
I agree. Bernie is welccome to make proposals and work towards passage of bills he supports.
Nitram
Sep 2017
#185
without his help in current media/news Republicans would have got rid of ACA by now.
Sunlei
Sep 2017
#189
This primary has exposed fundamental confusion over what "THE PARTY" is.
Act_of_Reparation
Sep 2017
#200
I am not a registered Democrat. My state does not register voters by party.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Sep 2017
#283
What's the meaning of your expression "goose step", that's the second time it's been used...
George II
Sep 2017
#222
Using your suggestion, the first hit I get on google is this video. So can I safely conclude....
George II
Sep 2017
#225
The only thing you can safely conclude is you don't know what a dictionary is.
Act_of_Reparation
Sep 2017
#227
The part where I recognize my peers are not as awesome as I once thought they were.
Act_of_Reparation
Sep 2017
#282
You saw the first hit I got on google earlier today for "goose step", didn't you?
George II
Sep 2017
#286
So, in backing down from claiming I wasn't truthful you say I'm lazy, inept, or dishonest...
George II
Sep 2017
#310
There is no such thing as constructive criticism ...all it does it drive voters away...especially
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#232
well at least you are honest about how you think the party ought to operate.
Voltaire2
Sep 2017
#285
correct is a little strong, and if you never ever have harsh words for your party, then you aren't
JCanete
Sep 2017
#202
This is why I think it needs to be looked into again. However, I would not like to see threads
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#245
Did you say the same bout Hillary when she dissed the DNC under the guise of constructive criticism?
InAbLuEsTaTe
Sep 2017
#251
It's my party too and most Democrats are with him on this. There is room for improvement.
Quixote1818
Sep 2017
#289