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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
17. We all agree, I think, that bigotry played a major role.
Sun May 21, 2017, 07:15 PM
May 2017

But isn't arguing that economics played no major role basically an argument for Democrats to be conservative on economics and defer to Wall Street?

You seem to see this a choice of whether the party opposes bigotry OR opposes economic injustice, and you appear-if I am reading your continued arguments on this correctly-to believe that acknowledging economic dispossession as playing any part in the Trump phenomenon HAS to mean putting the fight against bigotry on the back burner.

That isn't the argument economic justice advocates are making.

What we're saying is deal with BOTH...deal with bigotry and address corporate dominance and the consequences of the last thirty-six years of economic abandonment of the working class-and not just the white working-class, but the ENTIRE working class.

What would you need to hear before you could trust that dealing with economic justice DOESN'T mean throwing women and people of color(groups that are disproportionate victims of thirty-six years of economic injustice)under the bus?

Is there ever a time in which you could be open to dialog on this, rather than getting into an automatic "Not so fast, buddy!" response?


What will stop them? Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #1
"Populism" is probably one of the most misused labels in politics... Wounded Bear May 2017 #2
At some point, "populism" was turned into a euphemism for bigotry, nationalism, and even fascism. Ken Burch May 2017 #3
How can you get more men to be active in the resistance? bettyellen May 2017 #4
A good question. Thanks for asking it. Ken Burch May 2017 #6
Didn't assume anything- was pointing out the effort has been carried by women bettyellen May 2017 #7
It is a good thing to think about. Ken Burch May 2017 #9
I'm thinking they don't feel as immediately threatened as women and POC... bettyellen May 2017 #10
Some clearly don't. But some are in flux Ken Burch May 2017 #13
Sometimes it seems like it would take the draft to get dudes to pay attention. bettyellen May 2017 #19
I'm not defending men for not hitting the streets. Ken Burch May 2017 #20
Didn't say you were. I'm just disappointed because I think it would help us. bettyellen May 2017 #21
Absolutely agree. Ken Burch May 2017 #23
Sorry if I have been discouraged, as I see the trend in my real life as well, I'm trying to figure bettyellen May 2017 #24
Unfortunately, I have no answers for all of that, and I AM a man. Ken Burch May 2017 #25
Populism is a style of political rhetoric, it has nothing to do geek tragedy May 2017 #5
OK. Ken Burch May 2017 #8
the problem is the people, i.e. the WWC voters in this country geek tragedy May 2017 #15
Ok, there are horrible people in some parts of the country. Ken Burch May 2017 #22
Umhm. For LEADERS, populism is a method that Hortensis May 2017 #12
populism is a euphemism for demagoguery. geek tragedy May 2017 #14
Yes! Populism is NOT an ideology for governing but a tool Hortensis May 2017 #16
It's not a way of governing in and of itself. Ken Burch May 2017 #18
many of us already said his support was largely based on bigotry and not economics JI7 May 2017 #11
We all agree, I think, that bigotry played a major role. Ken Burch May 2017 #17
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